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Aaron 1941 Galveston Texas let's go back just talking what was going on with your just a little boy essentially for me it was as if I were growing up in Europe my mother had recently arrived in the United States about two three years ago three years prior and my father also had arrived my mother's sister lived in Galveston and she was able to arrange for my mother to come on my father's side his brother had been in Galveston for about 8 8 to 10 years and somehow he was able to get my father here now your parents didn't know each other before now now but
you know I am pretty sure that my aunt had something to do with arranging the marriage and during the first my father died when I was about nine before my 10th birthday right before my 10th birthday and my mother was a left a widow and although she was fluent in about five or six languages in so many ways the the devastation of the Holocaust really almost consumed us so that she was very afraid for us too she spoke five languages and yet she would not speak any of these languages in front of us except maybe occasionally kiddush primarily because she wanted us not to stand
out there would be no way she had such fears of Nazis coming over that that she didn't want us to stand out by being bilingual let's say whereas today it's very very common my mother's family with the exception of her sister died in the concentration camps in Europe on the other hand my father was a so so much more of a free spirit although I know very little about him because he died when I was so young he had a brother who brought him there he had two sisters literally one of them just appeared one day during the war I I have no regular let
recollection of when she came are the winter grandma when my grandmother his mother came they all just appeared now that he had one other sister and she was caught by the Nazis however she was blond and blue-eyed and was flowing German they couldn't imagine that she was Jewish so and she obviously was a good actress she wanted to be one and went through nazi-occupied territory to Italy and then subsequently to Palestine and from what I understand she fought in the pre Israeli either hog and I or probably knowing knowing what I heard about her it may have been in the air gun which was a
little bit more underground at that time now where did your dad what country did he come from my dad came from directly from Vienna but he was born in Poland ok what about your mind my mom I came directly from Poland and it's actually in the area that's being fought over by the with the Russians now in the lithuania area adjacent to poland there was a an area that was constantly and strife between the Russians one year and then the Polish took over the next year so she was fluent in both languages yeah not now your grandparents you never saw them I saw one as
I said my father's mother appeared sometime and I have no earthly idea of how she got there as his sister the same thing is true I wouldn't have you know they may have bribes I don't know how they got there yeah what'd your dad do for a living he owned a grocery store okay and injure mom when he passed away to Jim aam ki pehli assumed the grocery store for about a year year and a half but it became too much for her and so then she began to work as a clerk in addressing now now I know your folks tried to shelter you some
water protect you because of their fears of the war but did I ever talk about the family lost or anything about the war never never most of what I have learned has actually been I when I was more than an adult I had been married for some time and my children actually got my mother to open up to them more than she ever did to me she would occasionally tell aunty total stories of that other Lithuanian would come into the synagogue and they would lock the doors and somebody would the one door that was open somebody would yell fire and they would come out people
would run out in terror and an arbitrary number would be shot so we had those kinds of little antidotes but the key here was that we were told not to stand out now galveston at that time even though it was a well-known city was for me just very much like growing up in Europe yeah you ever find out why your family settled in galveston oh because of my my aunt my hair my mother's sister where'd you go to high school I went to ball high school okay there we had three other Jewish get boys and four Jewish girls and that was the extent of class
of about 300 and yet ironically most of my friends were non-jewish rather than Jewish right and what you guys do for fun I worked we were we were so poor that I literally at the age at that time the legal age for employment I think it's 14 and I started working at 14 years of age what were you doing I was working primarily in a grocery store a chain it was a chain down in Galveston and I was working at first as a sacker and then there's a clerk yeah now do you remember when you're able to get your first car that was after that's
a we're married I never owned a car until we were married I learned to drive now at a very young age and a license of hardship what is considered today are chipped license and my wife said I see I really missed the instruction of a good teacher and my driving even today now your brother older younger than my brothers three and a half years younger than him ok now after high school was at work college from the service after after high school I went to college I went for approximately three years I did not graduate but I took a medical school entrance exam and was
successful and because of my grades and I was asked to go to medical school what would have been my fourth year of college but what school was it was a medical school in galliston ok and then how come you didn't finish because we didn't have the money I mean essentially without scholarships and the local local philanthropic organization Jewish in galveston that loved my me money I would not have been able to go to medical school so I didn't complete college but I did complete medical school okay all right and were and after medical school now what what do you do to do after medical school
I did an internship and residency and also subspecialty training they were kind enough to combine my pediatric training with a new emerging subspecialty called neonatology and so I was doing both and so I was involved in a lot of the basic studies with glucose in the newborn right right I also wanted to the service was that death after when in our generation essentially the day you graduated from medical school you received a congratulation to the US Army the US government and they gave us a chance to either go in the Army Air Force or Navy after we completed our college if we would sign at
that the day of graduation and go into what was called them the berry plan so now you go into the army and this is the Vietnam War era yes what are you thinking let's go through your head well it was a lot of conflicts i will not let me just back up a minute the case western reserve where i trained with the headquarters of the anti-vietnam movement dr. Spock was there it was one of our teachers and I had very mixed feelings I had the knob legations in my country they had they allowed my parents to come here but I felt that I really should serve and I did and at the same time I was not perhaps the most enthusiastic about the war and was at that time worried about the war now you state state side though you're I say it's a tie okay okay and that they have you working as a physician that physician yes I worked at Fort Gordon in Georgia and also in foot Riley where the infantry came back from VF from Vietnam okay now you mentioned some training from the famous dr.
Spock what was that like well it's interesting here's a man walked in one friday after we i we didn't know that we were going to be lectured by him to walk in one and we sort of had were held in awe and he starts asking us how to help him with his teenage kids they were acting out and what does he think what do we think he should we do now also as part of my training the the chairman of the department of pediatrics co-chaired the nobel prize in for the isolation of poliovirus so we were very active in some of the early polio trials
but really more so and then lumps me and the measles immunization so it was just a mazing place to be at the time that i was there that he remembered all the turbulence going on in the country during the Vietnam yes what were your thoughts on this let me give you an example the first night you know when you start out you're not as confident as they are today so the first night I was on call in the emergency room nobody showed up and so I assumed it was because I was I called but it turns out they were having it riot we were located
in the inner city and they were having a riot enough at the time and the only way I found that out is the next morning when I as I was going to the highway then we just got they had called in the reserves and they were monitoring the city in over the next week or ten days Harvard lasted along lasted Cleveland was going up in flames I forgave God and everybody else now after after your time in the Army was over did you go set up practice then we I came to Dallas and and what was the decision to come to Dallas well actually there
was something in our ketubah that said that it we both couldn't Mitchell II agree on a city that we would come back to the place where the Cooper was sign which was Dallas okay well tell me about meeting your wife oh I met her when she had a date we actually with somebody else and I didn't have a car and I rode with them to to a party I rode with her and her date and myself is a friend and after that we started dating and we subsequently became engaged in right now this was up in Cleveland now this is I'm still a Texas I'm
sorry you were in college and that's why the ketubah was signed down here that yeah because we're married in down okay so you got married in Dallas you came to Dallas and you set up residency and then you became a pediatrician down here a pediatrician and also tried to do some things with this new sub specialty of neonatology that was emerging at that time now today it's it's very well known but in the early stages and in some ways the people that in Cleveland were little ahead of perhaps what was being done down there down here and so it was a very awkward time yes
what year was just that you came down we came in 71 okay what have you noticed over the years in medicine from when you started practice till today the advancements a little bit what you're talking about now how different is it really today it's yeah it's very it's very different certain areas have progressed his marvelous treatments that are available and yet has really become more commercial than I remember it people would reserve were very humble the hospital we had was an old hospital I probably this generation wouldn't even go to and it was an excellent hospital which hospital is rainbow children's in Cleveland those who
were still back in Cleveland and and and you know and then here I came and things were new and and fresh most of the physicians at that time had graduated from southwestern here and it stayed on for the training and so sometimes you have cultural differences actually just as you do it everything else in medicine where there are more advanced in some areas some other people more advanced in other areas yeah was there one accomplishment that was like you were most proud of in your practice well I'm most proud of my children and my wife and she has done I've done a lot of things
in my practice and tangential to my practice I established a public health clinic in Mesquite I then was involved nationally and statewide in organizing clinics for underserved children and we actually were recognized by the American Academy of Pediatrics for work in Texas and I've participated in various Jewish and social events and programs and helped initiate some of the things that today are thriving and it really just very amazing far exceeded any of our expectations when we first started and did you get involved with the Jewish community here yes okay tell me a little bit about that Dallas at that time was a very inbred community
and here I was this street fighter that had gotten into medical school and had worked very hard and so you know I was a little crude i think is the best word to use not intentionally just by who i was and i was involved in the early phases of starting what is now called the vadakara suite which is the certifying agents for kosher products kosher places in the in the dallas area and we didn't have social media we really had to use a lot of different tactics to get people to come along I was also involved in a in a adult Jewish education program that
was started for the community with the understanding that the synagogue's at that time would not compete directly on the days that we had the adult Jewish learning time happiest time in your life happiest time in my life is actually the birth of my children and my wife putting up with me and the sort of and I'm making me or attempting to make me a little bit more sophisticated and a little bit more aware that you know I shouldn't be a bull in a china shop now in your lifetime was not an invention that came along that you just went Wow how do we ever get
along without that well that's a very interesting question I am fascinated by the computer if I were to pick some things that have amazed me is the disappearance in this country of polio some of the advances in transplant and that are just amazing so it really there's been a lot of change now in your lifetime there's been so many momentous occasions that you live through of course the Vietnam War era President Kennedy assassination here in Dallas something good the moon landing for the first time in 69 of course the tragedy of 911 was there something that happened on the national scene that you know exactly
where you were and yes how it affected you it was it was when Kennedy was shot I remember the day very very vividly I was right around noon time and we were starting a class and and it was actually a we have grand rounds where we discuss cases it was a psychiatry grand rounds and we were supposed to go see Peter Paul and Mary that weekend and everything obviously was cancelled and I was a little amazed at some of the responses of some of my fellow students about his assassination and what what well they weren't all negative anything what you know it it made me
realize how diverse of population my class 100 was there were people that were not really upset and thought that the country had evidently rifted it's a certain way in a certain way that that this might rectify it in some ways and I it just it tore me apart I just I couldn't believe it now you and Aileen have four kids and 11 grandkids yes what advice does grandad have for that next generation you know their way I have my league already they have the availability with technology and the things that they can do I just you know to appreciate who they are to appreciate their
parents and hopefully their grandparents too and that we can set certain examples both religiously in in our everyday life there will be a positive influence on them my wife is very very good at doing this very good thanks for doing this today oh thank you did a great job