Andrea Kastor
Andrea Kastor was born in 1948 in Dallas, Texas, and remembered a happy childhood, including the years before her younger brother, four and a half years her junior, was born. Her father was a CPA from Denver, Colorado, and her mother, born in Washington, D.C., grew up in Dallas. Her parents met at a USO party at the JCC while her father was in the Army during World War II, and they married after the war. Her father served on the front line in Germany, was wounded and awarded a Purple Heart, and rarely spoke of his experiences. Andrea's grandparents came from Eastern Europe, and she carries her father's dog tags to this day.
Growing up, Andrea felt the Dallas Jewish community was very close-knit. She was active in BBG and other Jewish organizations, attended Kramer Elementary School, and graduated from Hillcrest High School, where she cherished small groups of close friends. She began attending OU for a semester before transferring to SMU. She married her first husband, whom she met at a fraternity party, and moved to Northern Virginia outside Washington, D.C., where her two sons were born and where she witnessed the turbulence of the Vietnam era and Watergate. That marriage lasted thirteen years before she returned to Dallas.
Back in Dallas, Andrea worked as an accountant, first alongside her father with his remaining clients and on early computer systems, and later for larger CPA firms. She met her husband, Bill, through the Jewish singles group at the JCC, and the couple have been married about thirty years. Together they raised a large blended family and have many grandchildren. Andrea and Bill remain active at the JCC, though the self-described shy Andrea wishes she could do even more. She vividly recalled the day of the Kennedy assassination and reflected on decades of technological change, offering the advice to cherish each day because children grow up fast.
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Andrea 1948 Dallas Texas let's go back talk to me when you were just a little girl what was life like wow that's enjoy I loved it I even remember my brother's four and a half years younger than I am and I somewhat remember a little bit before he was born and what did you what do you remember a little bit before he was born maybe it's reme remember what my mother told me I don't know oh I remember the first house we lived in and when my brother was born um just a lot of the friends that I played with in the first house and
all of us end up my friends there ended up moving into the same area right around the JCC here around the same time so it's kind of like whole neighborhood kind of picked up and moved you know I just basically had a very happy young childhood and probably was a little jealous when my brother was born but I enjoyed it what did your dad do for a living CPA yeah okay and are they both your mom and dad both from Dallas also no actually not uh my mother grew up here uh she was born in Washington DC moved here she went to elementary school and
all the way through and up my dad is from Denver Colorado uh they met when he was in the um Army for World War II uh at The JCC in Dallas and it was a Uso party and um that was how they met and he went on to the war and they got married after the war yeah now where where was your dad station during the war oh he was on the front line in Germany he was injured wounded did he okay tell us some of the tell us some of the stories that he shared with you guys oh he didn't really talk about the
war um he really didn't I know he was wounded um he was sent to Switzerland twice he had pneumonia the first time he was shot the second he has a had a Purple Heart well he's deceased so he got a purple heart um the only time he ever talked ever was really much later and he's called it the million dollar wound he still was he was sent back but he got got him off the front line and um he said his Lieutenant told half the people to go one way and half the people to go another and the other half all got killed wow do
you know what battle this was that he got injured in you know I don't a lot of the people at that time didn't talk about the war they really didn't and know we know and that was the sad part I carry his dog tags believe it or not I do after he passed away hm yeah your grandparents do you remember them at all yes very much um my father's father passed away before my brother was born so I really don't remember him other than pictures my brother was named after him but um my other grandfather and I were extremely close and he didn't pass away
till I was 16 yeah you what what did your grandparents do for a living my paternal grandfather um was a tailor um they all came from Eastern Europe right and he worked in Denver Colorado he worked for a company uh and he even worked the day passed away came home from work didn't feel well sat down and that was it wow um he even apparently made some clothing for me which I wish I still had yeah I don't know what ever happened to them because as I said I was really young when he passed away um my other grandfather was in the Iron and Steel
business which my mother used to say that as the old story when her mother ironed and her father stole which of course wasn't true but he was you know he did that yeah yeah yeah now um your grandparents did they come uh were they born in this country or they come from over they all were from Eastern Europe okay um the only ones I knew where they were really from were my father's parents parents and they were from brush and I'm sure I mispronounced that but outside of Minsk and it's still there the town is still yeah did you ever hear stories about how they
got here I did hear stories um I have an older cousin who's told me more uh CU we we really didn't record anything and that was the sad part my grandmother lived till she was 105 wow so we really should have gotten a lot more yeah but we didn't and that was when her husband passed away when he was 65 so there was a huge difference in how long they lived um prams had come in they lived in barush was became Belarus so that was that area and um my grandmother's entire she had Brothers she was the only uh female and her all the men
were killed um my grandfather I don't think they were married there I think they were married in the United States but um he was the one that came over first and then sent for everybody how they ended up in Colorado I I really don't know of course they came through Elis Island so that part I'm unsure about yeah yeah um he got his whole family over of my grandmother's family she was the only surviving person yeah you know what uh what year this was when they came over what don't I honestly don't my dad was the youngest child that nobody was born they weren't married
my father was born in 1919 so it had to be before that obiously way before that clearly where did you go to high school hilis high school and what was high school life like for you well actually I I loved it I mean I know that sounds crazy I didn't live an idealistic life it sounds like I did but I did I liked it um I feel like the Jewish community in Dallas was very close-knit all my activities were in involved outside activities were involved in you know BBG and other Jewish organizations um religiously I grew up at shareth Israel right um I just had
a really nice I had a lot of close friends and I like small groups of friends although I was in clubs so I like that part too but as far as close friends I like small groups and any of your friends from high school you still friendly with to they uh yes there a couple yes yeah yes they're still here what um what was it in high school you used to do that uh you would have died if your folks found out the only thing I did and since unfortunately they're no longer here I do miss them um when I wanted to stay out later
than my curfew I spent the night with my best friend CU her parents let us stay out later that was the only thing I did wrong no I'm not I'm h no two things oh another one uh I had been dating a guy who was being rushed at a fraternity I was two years younger and uh they had a private area and they were serving alcohol and I was only 16 and I did drink a lot which I had never had anything before and I did get drunk so they thought I had a 24-hour virus well you did well yeah I I didn't tell them
that was that was UN I was really honest with them about everything I just chose not to tell them that now after high school um was it to work or on to college no I went to college um however I have kind of a sketchy situation with that um I started dating while I was still in high school later my who was to become my first husband he went to SMU right and I was still in high school well my parents wanted me to date other people so while I was had early acceptance to SMU um at the very last moment they had me go
to OU cuz that's where all my friends were going so I went to OU for a semester and I came home so often my father was afraid I was going to the roads weren't well paved then that I was going to get killed in the mountains so he decided I could transfer to SMU because he just figured that if I was going to come home that much I may as well be close yes and I kind of was a slightly this was just an aside sarcastic trial and one time when I was coming home for the weekend I came with a group of I didn't
have a car so I always had a ride and I had my friends leave off my clothes for my mother to have clean for me the next day so I wouldn't have to come home to dirty clothes but I really was in the car I just had them drop it off so she would think that she had to do that but I then came knocking at the door I GL she did was them and then I went to SMU okay after that your first husband where did you meet him at a fraternity party at when it as I was still in high school he's two
years older than I am and um I did not finish at SMU he was from Northern Virginia outside DC and um we got married before I finished and I went to College up there after that well part-time it was took me a long time I was married went to work took night school I mean I just so where did you guys settle down you went back to Virginia with him I went to Virginia with him he was a high school teacher is that where your children were born yes they were born in perect hospital in Virginia what was the happiest time in your life when
my children were born yeah my grandchildren are wonderful so I mean you're looking at different things having children are wonderful but right now having grandchildren are wonderful because they you get to have all the fun and they're fantastic and in a couple of them I see my children in them but then I don't have the responsibility but I have the fun now when you were a young adult the country was going through very turbulent times with Vietnam and rioting in the streets in some of the major cities how did that affect you well it affected me a lot at the time all that was happening
I lived outside of DC I said I was married the first time for 13 years right so I actually lived outside of DC during the Vietnam war during Watergate during all the things that basically there wasn't I didn't see rioting in well I did of course protest I mean there was a lot of things like that going on um it was amazing because they national news was also local news right so pretty much being in the heart of it was quite interesting now then not being College other than part-time so I wasn't a full-time student on a campus during that time well Vietnam yes but
SMU was a rather conservative school um I wasn't so much a part of the rioting but just hearing what was going on and how it affected Ed so many people of my generation was horrible yeah I mean it was horrible and I've been to DC since and saw the Vietnam memorial and it just makes you sick to see how many people were killed one thing I have to say about living in Dallas and this is really backtracking I mean the changing of when Brown versus the Board of Education and when I was in elementary school and how different families were taking that it was amazing
because here they did not integrate at all the way it was supposed to be done and a lot of the people say my parents are going to take me out of school and I'm not going to have to do that this I went to Kramer Elementary School and it was incredible to me that that's what was going to happen that parents were just going to send everybody to private schools and did not integrate that way they integrated starting first grade so I never went to school with anybody uh that was black until I was in college yeah because they really didn't then they declared it
unconstitutional so they then interr everybody you and Stewart your marriage lasted 13 years when it ended did you come back to Dallas at that time when I came back to Dallas yes okay and and what did you do when you came back uh well I was an accountant by then so um which I really was going to be a I was going back to become a social worker I just didn't couldn't complete them I know that's they're nothing related except somewhat they are you do hold your clients hands um my dad had already sold his practice so I was working um he was working parttime
I worked with him with the clients he kept and I also was working at computer end because suddenly computers were around but there were only these big humongous ones so I did a lot of work for clients um on the computer and then of course the PC came in and they didn't really need that part anymore so I started working for he really retired and I started working for larger CPA firms yeah and then where did you meet Bill your your husband I met him at my parents met at the JCC and I met him through the Jewish singles group so and my brother met
his wife through the Jewish singles group so we just seem to have a role in our family yeah yeah yeah now you and Bill have been married 30 years now yes you know what is your involvement today with the Jewish Community well obviously we do a lot here at the JCC um probably less than I would like it to be mainly because it doesn't sound like it but I'm very shy MH and I know I don't come across that way no you don't but I am um I have a very difficult time walking into somewhere where I don't know anybody specifically it's a large group
of people right so I pretend it's okay yeah yeah no very good what was the music you listen to as a kid did you care about the Beatles oh of course yeah oh yes I was a normal teenager yes no absolutely so that was the big group for you that back I L I loved all kinds of you know the period music and I do remember when Elvis first came out and I I was young and my parents liked Elvis I figured he had to be a baldheaded band leader cuz when they first mentioned his name and they liked him and I had no idea
who he was and they were going to go see him I'm going like oh my gosh then he must be horrible then I was shocked to see who he was in your lifetime there's been so much advancement in technology what came along that you went wow how did we ever get along without that the iPhone I mean computers period I mean we can't live with that computer at all I mean the worst part that I have found that has come from it is the fact that you don't have conversations with anybody anymore because everybody's texting you and everybody's doing that so I mean we've gone
from the fact that I learned to use this humongous computer that had a disc like that instead of a hard drive that went into and the room had to be air conditioned right to an iPad um so and of course I being accountant I've done taxes so you still have to use a regular computer but uh the fact that everything was done by hand and you had to know how to do everything and now and you had a spell now you don't have spell because spell check will do it for you which is hindrance for people who want to do things um but getting along
without computers I think would be very difficult now tell me about your kids now did they move to Dallas with you yes okay neither of them live in Dallas now my oldest son is named Rob lives in San Francisco he has a daughter he'll be getting married again in May uh his daughter's 10 and her name is Isabelle and she's fabulous and um unfortunately I don't get to see them very much because of the distance um he works for Ancestry.com a senior vice president or higher than that he does a lot of traveling he goes to England and they're based in Utah but he does
work the customer relationship management side using computers and writing articles and doing that type of stuff he's very mathemat my ex-husband was a math teacher and I'm an accountant our kids are very mathematically oriented Eric is my youngest son lives in Austin he's been married for 15 16 going on 16 years it'll be 16 years in um May and they have three children children the oldest just turned 13 and um his name is Jacob then there's Ethan who will be 12 in August and they adopted a daughter her name is salana from Guatemala and she will be nine in September okay my husband Bill he
has an oldest daughter named Dawn who is my stepdaughter she lived with us for a short period of time but she's the oldest so she was in college her daughter name daughter's name is Laur and she goes to the University of North Texas um the next stepter I have down is Michelle she has a son named zevan or Zev and she lives in Seattle he's actually the youngest grandchild then Lisa lives here well lives in Richardson she has two children Michael and Catherine how did the President Kennedy assassination effect I can't I can't believe I passed that that was so horrible I was on the
way to see we I was in high school and we were allowed to leave school uh with a note from our parents and um a guy was dating at the time had a car so we could go downtown and we were heading it from a different direction not from which we called stemmans at the time 35 we had names of streets not numbers when I was growing up because Dallas was so much smaller and uh then we heard on the radio and I've never been so devastated in my life it was just horrible and my friends who were at school said they came on the
PA system and everybody went into the auditorium and my brother was in elementary school and he said they're out there in the yard playing tetherball and they came out and got everybody in so yes it was just oh my gosh it was so devastating I could not believe any I've ever I've always had a very difficult time with comprehending how man's inhumanity to man yeah I I don't understand it I still don't well you have the two children and with your husband bill you have like eight grandkids the two of you together yes what advice does Grandma have for the Next Generation cheris each day
they get old fast oh my goodness I I love being with them and I love watching them get older but boy I would love to shrink them back to some of the size when um I was their favorite person in the entire world and then and then it is nice to see them grow up and have you know hearing my 13-year-old grandson say oh I have a crush on this person but I really liked it when it was me I know that sounds really bad but did a great job today thanks for doing this oh well I enjoyed it actually