Bernice Meyerson
Bernice was born in 1918, the year World War One ended, and was the only grandchild on either side of her family for five years, which brought her a great deal of loving attention from grandparents in Kansas City. Both sides of her family were rooted there, but her father came to Texas as the oldest nephew of a great uncle, Jake, who had taken part in the Oklahoma land rush and later opened a winery. When Prohibition ended that business, her father learned the jewelry trade from a family friend and eventually owned a store in Fort Worth that later became Peacocks and then Sterling's. Her parents met in Kansas City and married after her father had settled in Texas.
Bernice grew up in Fort Worth, which she remembered as a warm and largely welcoming place with a close congregation of about 300 members. She attended Paschal High School, graduating early at fifteen, and worked in an optometrist's office. She met Brutus Meyerson, seven years her senior, at a temple event when she was sixteen. After being brought home from work by him each day, the two married in 1936, in a wedding held at the assistant rabbi's home in Dallas because no rabbi was available in Fort Worth. They began married life in an apartment on Hemphill Street and later bought a home on Stadium Drive.
The Meyersons raised two sons, Martin and Sandy. Their younger son, Sandy, was diagnosed with a rare cancer, neurosarcoma, around age three and died before his sixth birthday, a loss Bernice met with courage as she cared for him at home. She poured herself into service, playing music for community groups, volunteering at a veterans hospital and a school, and teaching Sunday school with a hands-on approach connecting Jewish teachings to current events. Married more than sixty years, Bernice took deep pride in her son Martin, her grandchildren, and great-grandchildren, and treasured the way her family had grown close over the years.
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here we are today today is july 8th and i want to talk to you about your memories and your past and all kinds of stuff okay so why don't we get started with what it tell us tell me some of your earliest memories of living at home what was it like for you as a child well i was particularly blessed i was the only grandchild on either side for five years in that case i had all the attention in the world because my grandparents because i lived in texas were so anxious to see me every summer no matter what i did it didn't make any
difference see unfortunately anyway my sister was born five years later and my cousin so therefore i didn't have quite as much attention but i'll have to admit that i was always the favorite and i used to think my mother my sister was my mother's favorite because she got measles for me when i was 18 when she was 18 months old it affected her eyes and she walked around holding my mother's skirt because you know they didn't have plastic glasses don't have regular glasses and my mother was afraid she was going to fall so she wouldn't let her run or anything and of course then i
had my brother when i was nine he came along and so she couldn't climb trees and she was an outcast first for years just when she grew up and got married so i really had the most attention of any child you ever saw and i think it helps that's the reason i was very loving with martin and one and took him to see his grandparents on both sides because it was important for my background that he had all that attention right do they live in kansas city so you're you're on both sides of my family say lived in kansas city and what nature of parents
well here's what happened my father came to texas because he was the oldest nephew of my great uncle and he owned a winery down here and his name was jake chenowski and these people he was first he stopped in oklahoma he was a really a character he was in the land drive you know the man rush in oklahoma then he met a girl there and he married her and they opened the saloon and he always tells the story that he'd have her carry the money to the bank in the wash tub and he'd hold the pistol so no one can see it but anyway he
finally made his way to texas and he opened this winery and then of course you know came prohibition so my father didn't have a job and that was he didn't really have to work my great uncle do but uh he liked to be busy was always doing something anyway my father was gonna go back to kansas city and take us back to kansas city and his best friend was named ben levy who was the father of milton and louis leafy dr levy is a dentist here and he lives upstairs now but our parents see i was really supposed to marry him according to his parents
and my parents but it never works out you know that so he said i just can't lose you as a friend we're just crazy about y'all and he said why don't you learn that he had just had a stroke and my father saved his life my father had to be in the store and he saved him for from falling through a glass window when he had that stroke and he said you know i'm not in good health and i want you to learn the business so my father said okay it was a jewelry business and eventually my father owned that store it became peacocks and
then it became sterling's you remember sure of course of course so how did your dad meet your mom well they met each other in kansas city they knew each other and were going together before my father came down here he came down here to texas and then he went back to kansas city to be married because everybody was in kansas city our whole family except for my great uncle was down here right i mean up there right so he met them so he made her and married her later after he had been here a couple of years he would go back for a holiday or
something then the train was running regular from here to kansas city you know so it was really no chore and um so when uh uncle ben i call him uncle because i always called him uncle and aunt you know excellent uh celine was milton's mother and uh so he went to work for them and eventually it all worked out you know and then during the war he sold the store out in fort worth because some man and woodstock falls contacted it and by that time brutus and i were no no that's great yeah that's great so tell me so what was it like growing up
and forward for you well fort worth was probably the greatest place in the world for a lot there was no anti-semitism perceptively you know and at that time say on the weekends if they had a dance you know there would be every school would go it wouldn't just one that all would go to the casino and they had all the big bands they had katie kaiser and they had all kinds of people come red nichols and his five pennies and everybody else and we were dancing fools and the boys had no money it was a nickel a dance so you dance with with the one
that which brought you every 30 minutes he could afford probably 50 cents for the whole evening because it was their great depression see i was born the year 1918 and that's the year that world war one ended and i was married in 36 in the depression that already started well so what did you did you also got a passport high school brutus his mother went to paschal brutus went to paschal i went to pass a little important way to pass all of us his parents came over there went to fort worth around the turn of the century see his father was sent by judea schiff's
group from new york because they thought there were too many jewish people there and they trained him to be a tailor and there wasn't a tailor in fort worth there was something dallas but none in fort worth so they sent him to fort worth and what was it what who are your friends like what were they like what was your social life oh well that was easy my mother belonged to they they called it a sewing club which they did and all of them were very talented women and very good cooks and they sewed they made me fix needlepoint they'd fix things for the temple
they'd have drapes for the temple and their and my father and all this group the husbands they built built a theater in the downstairs which was the recreation room built a stage my uncle was an electrician my dad's sister came down to visit and they introduced her to a man named gus landman and he was electrician and he was the owner co-owner of a big electrical company in fort worth and so they built that stage they wired it they did everything then put in the floors and our mothers put in the drapes and everything and it was really we were more like a family the
whole congregation in fort worth at that time because it wasn't very big how big was it it finally had 300 members and today they have 300 members amazing were your friends mostly jewish i mean how did they go but although they were i was in the sorority that was this group from all over town i think i was going to be come to think of it i can't think of any others that were in it i was kind of a muddy happy-go-lucky person i liked everything you know uh so uh i only had one bad experience and i used to go with this fellow named
jim dance he's a lawyer in houston now i he invited me to go but he'd be his day he was the valedictorian the president of his class he was two or three years older than i was he invited me to go with him and there was one teacher i'd never run into this before and i didn't know how to act and she told him she took him aside and said who are you taking to the banquet you know senior banquet and he said i'm taking bernie stressman and he said do you know she's jewish she said of course i know she's jewish she said you
shouldn't take her and i don't want you to take her i do when his best friend told me he would tell me and i got hysterical and i wasn't the type and one of the teachers saw me and said what in the world is the matter is she hurt or what uh his best friend happened to be with me and he said no and told the teacher what happened and he went to the principal and that teacher almost got fired and the funny thing was that her sister i was her sister's favorite she was the pe teacher and i played volleyball and this ran on
track and everything like that you know because i was a combo it was just i mean that was like somebody hit me over there with a hammer because i've never run into anything like that but he was such a wonderful man mr pascal it was called central then and they later named the school for him and i was right and that was the teacher and that was no that was the principles of the school but in this quiet way he told her that it was not her prerogative he said you are not the boy's parents if they don't care it's none of your business and
besides you should never have an attitude like that you know he was very was one of the prejudice bone in his mind that's the only time in the whole time of my childhood that i knew there was any difference because i actually did you know i didn't know the difference because i was enlightened but it never occurred to me not to sing the the christmas carols about about being jewish in fort worth what did your parents care did you you know what was it like in terms of integration with your life did you ever think you'd marry something that wasn't jewish doesn't matter no which
no i wouldn't i never thought i would but my mother was crazy about this fella i went with his name was jim nance he was john lance garner's nephew and he was the president of the class and everything in the football player like i told you and then he was so smart he went to rice and the poor thing would play a football game and then he would hitchhike down here so he can see me on sundays my mother would tell him he was crazy so how do you marry him as i got older and he was down there and then he went to law
school and he went he was a chemical engineer and he was in school forever so i grew away from it was that around the same time remember this yeah so what was that like tell us what it was like well um that was so much fun because i i it's this shows you how chance things happen my mother called him to come over and give her a quote on some insurance and i was in the living room sitting there listening to the record that's where the record player was and the radio and i was sitting there in one corner and he came in and see
he was seven years older almost eight years older than i was and i he started talking to me the funny thing was i had known his sister and known his cousin that lived around the corner but he had seen me one other time and i asked who i was he asked his cousin who i was said who's that little curly heavy girl over there my hair was one girl like lester's his name yeah so he said he was taken with me so we were both into play at the temple it was pretty far away from where i lived i said he said i left and
started to believe he said where are you going i said i'm going to call my dad to come after me he said i'll take you home i said well i have to ask permission so i'll have to go ask him so i called and see that was what got it because i was still childlike i was childlike i was 16. barely 16. and he was 23. so that was a lot of difference sure but in those days you know i was working i wasn't i graduated early we only had 11 years of schooling and not 12. on top of that i was put ahead in the lower grades you know my mother had cancer and she was going to go to males to have this operation so she wanted to put me in school so i can she had a maid then that was going to live with us and i was five and nine six see all right so she wants you to she so wanted me to be in school because she had two other children to keep and so what happened was the team when i got to the school the principal said since my birthday was in july and i think august
was the changing time event you know for the grave and he said well we don't have a chair so i'll put her in the first grade so he put me in the first grade and by the time the chair came six weeks later they said used to send her to kindergarten she's doing just fine here so i was a year ahead of myself that's the reason i graduated so i was not 16 until a month after i graduated amazing so so brutus took you home from the play and he didn't see you again until you get to your mother's house to your house yeah right
right so how did you feel he told us how to do it i was all taken with him because he was a grown handsome he'd been a football player he sort of his group was much older than mine i would see him sometime at those dances but i'd never danced with him because he was so much older you know what i mean right i was all taken with him because i knew his sister and his cousin i was real good friends with his sister and his cousin does he lie and that's ryan schwartz is just uh ain't i'm not funny you know dr schwartz in
rochester uh-huh and brutus was real close with ron's dad not something and then we all got together on that trip that was the greatest trip what you tell us the disney trip because we wanted to take the children and everything we took a three-day trip you know to the islands we went to that atlantis it was so beautiful and the kids they were in seventh heaven like leslie's kid she got her walkie-talkies she would call them every hour but we would hear from him more often because it ran out of money he asked me to dance at the temple it was a temple land you
know i told him i said i don't know my mother let her go you have to ask her because really my father i was his favorite and it was very picky about me i don't think he he he was just like a mother hand with me the thing was i've never been out on a date and up until that time they would drive me you know and pick me up wouldn't let me go out in the car with the ball but since he was older i think he talked to him brutus always owns a good salesman he really was so he took you to the
dance and then they started doing it but my parents wouldn't let me go with anybody but one time a week they said familiarity brings content you're not going you can't you're too young to get too friendly with anybody so actually the only time i went one because there was an extra party i went with two times in a week and i had to sit home the next three weekends they wouldn't let me go out and he was so mortified because he was a grown man and then but then how because he continued to go out once a week and then and then and then after
i graduated then everybody i knew some of them were going to the army and some of them were going you know things were getting bad um so then she'd let me go with you because i was out i was graduating high school you can't have your mother father take you forever in their car you know i was working what were you doing i was working in an optometrist office see because i played the piano i was really good at typing so you run in the office he picked me up every day and take me home so that mandy started eating dinner every night at our
house and that was it and how did he propose to you do you remember that i cannot remember it sort of just became like it was going to be the thing you know right because if you eat dinner with that and they bring you home every night from work you have no something's going on right that's right so you got married what was your wedding like that we had a peculiar wedding because the rabbi in fort worth left he was hired for california and the rabbi here dr lefkowitz retired there wasn't a rabbi the only person there was was a young man named stanley brave
he was the assistant rabbi um the rabbi leftwicks don't wait a minute wait a minute corey i want you to and i was talking about your wedding and so the rabbi wife was having a baby any minute so would you believe we had to have the wedding in his house in dallas yes everybody his grandmother and his mother and dad and my mother and dad came over here and we had the wedding at his house and then we all went to the adolphus did you blame him what was it you know it was just everything was in a state of flux in those days because
the war was pending right and we were married in 36. sorry all the tension was so hard the tension was so high and it was just the tail end of the brutus was very fortunate he was going to go to the ccc did he tell you no because there weren't any jobs and he was going to go to the ccc and he was the same way he was in his father's store and the insurance man came in who he went to work for mr salemme right and he said daddy sam he said do you know someone that could drive me i'm not i'm not able to drive anymore daddy sam said well what about my son
here sure enough he hired him and he eventually bought that business but the man never had any children and he was crazy about bruce burgess even lived with me lived in the texas hotel which is now the hyatt not something amazing but it's funny how things just how you meet people like that right because if he hadn't been in his father's store that day it had been gone to the ccc which was like the rotc or something but what they did the government was furnishing money to fix they made the lake worth beautiful that's what this is huh that's what this is what they did
did arms made places to barbecue places to go fishing places wow to look out places right so what was it so you got married and where did you live memories the funny thing was we moved on hemphill street we moved in this apartment that was absolutely beautiful it was built and it would be like this apartment would be today you know on the bed it was on hemphill street and the people went broke so brutus made 32.50 a week and we paid 32.50 a month rent all bills paid wow but this and he was really lucky he had a car furnished wow and so actually
he did very well right and how long was it like being married at first is it what you thought it would be like what was it i didn't i didn't i was pretty spoiled [Laughter] it was pretty bad for anybody you know when i would my mother would say to me bernice it's your time to wash the dishes tonight so the minute dinner was over i'd run and start playing the camera you know and my father had come in there and said my mother come in and say bernie get in there and wash those dishes my father would say dina everybody can wash dishes but
not everybody can play the piano so i'd keep playing until my brother and sister finish the dishes did you get along with your brother and sister sure mostly my brother but my sister was handicapped and i was a cowboy like i told you so i was used to going fishing and this and that and the other you know she didn't do anything like that but my this is what is so funny my father even though he knew a tomboy life when i got ready to go fishing it made me put on all these long sleeve shirts and i had this big and gloves and here
i was this little thing with this great big hat and he's covered up from head to toe and i thank him because my complexion would probably been ruined right because i was in the same time right and later we bought a beach house in galveston and i was used to doing that so i didn't sit in the sun or sunbathe you know oh well it's because of my father right now then tonight so so you moved into this apartment on himself and it was just beautiful martin was born two years later and then we lived there until he was two and we bought a house
rudy's had there's a young lady that lives here her name is helena and hers she was hella named carve and her father and brutus were good friends he was a a real estate man and also he was an appraiser and in insurance she used him a lot you know with the appraisals and things on our houses and so he came to brutus and said brutus i'm building a new addition they're going to extend stadium drive and you only get one of the houses well we couldn't anymore before we just had a baby and we couldn't afford a house actually so he said we just said
well i'd love to get it but i don't have a down payment he said i'll show you how to get it and we took a lien on our furniture we had our own furniture and we took a second mortgage on our furniture and got the down payment we paid five hundred dollars for two bedroom baths and that was so funny because when the war started and everything we had to have another bedroom because we're gonna have another baby and sandy was already sick by that time you know our youngest son had cancer we find it they said he had polio but we found out it
was cancer when he was about three and so he needed to be downstairs and martin was in school and he didn't need to be getting up all hours tonight you know so we decided we'd take in the bag and build which we did and when we built that room it cost sixty five hundred dollars twice as much as that amazing that's showing you how inflation things you know things were just going up were you happy were you happy or no heart and did you get along well with bruce's family his mother always called me when she i took her to the get the bread each
week and if she wanted to buy any clothes she always asked me to go with her we never had a crossword i mean we were still close with princess sister yeah but she moved away she moved to washington remember from philadelphia she was away but we'd go see them and they'd come see us and what was it like someone then went to school went right down the street on stadium drive on the blue body people walking to school in the mornings i wouldn't walk and he'd walk himself it was just dry right we were just a block from school he was a good student always
except when he got into sixth grade he was in the fifth grade he was pretty smart but but that teacher knew how to handle it miss kingray i'll never forget she was our neighbor and she'd call me and she'd say miss mayerson can martin come over this morning he can help me grade paper and he'd go well when he got in the sixth grade he got a new teacher miss victory she was cute but she didn't know how to how many kids that day but she was too young then and so he came home with the first report card and he had d in deportment
deportment and i said that's not mort something is wrong here so i went marching down to the school you know and sandy was sick by that time and i said to the principal i just don't understand this i i'd like to talk to his teacher so she called her and she came and she said well he's always dead in trouble he next gail peterson was this little swedish looking girl with these long golden braids he'd stick them in the ink and i said to her well don't you she said and the thing is he gets through with his work and he doesn't have to double
check it because he knows he's making he's hadn't missed anything and so he's boy he's bored and he gets in trouble i said well then why don't you get him to help you she said help me what do you mean i said well he used to help miss pink keyboard great papers oh she said i couldn't do that's punishment i said well it wouldn't it wasn't punishment he liked doing but she certainly then she started doing it and everything was on what was it can we talk about sandy are you comfortable oh yeah sure so what was it like how did you know i mean
how well the trouble was sandy started um he started lymph skipping on one foot like sideways well we thought it was funny at first because you know it was funny because he was going sideways and he wasn't the three so you know he's not as a cute kid he thought it was just the thing but then he started crying in his sleep and i had all these doctors they said he had polios he and martin were both sick and right about 102 or three people for a week when it was over then sandy started doing this limping we had rip louis levy was an orthopedic
surgeon in fort worth that had been our friend and uh all these years you know we've been friendly with them they had a daughter and she was in morton's class and his wife and i would walk morgan one day he kept crying in his sleep and i said to brutus if something is wrong and i'd asked the pediatrician i'd asked him and i'd asked everybody and they'd say well you're turning out to be a neurotic mother i said no i'm not i that is my type but anyway i went to my father and he was a shriner and at that time the scottish rite hospital
here was a polio hospital homie polio but they only took indigenous people now they take everybody but at that time the polio was so bad you know and rapid that they only they were swamped the only thing they knew was sister kenny's treatment with the hot packs you know they didn't have a medicine or a back seat for it i said to my father i said well you've been a shriner all these years i don't want him to go over there and take advantage of getting the treatment when somebody can't pay for it i said but i want to find out what's wrong with it
so he called the president of the shrine and and they made arrangements for him just to go through the clinic and they found the mass he had cancer and it was down here and there was growing and it was a different kind of cancer it was neurosarcoma which is like a tape form and as it grows on the nerve it kills the nerve so whatever nerve it grows on it kills that nerve so eventually you know he was crippled and then a doctor what was his name from mit stan forgotten his name i know it just as well as anything he was the head of
that uh farmer dr sydney farber he was the head of the hospital and all they did was study cancer in children under 16. so he was coming down here for a meeting so our pediatrician arranged for him to sandy and when he did he told us he said the way it looks to me like it's going to his brain and then everything will stop because he won't you know it didn't it went to his kidneys and his liver and then they just you know when he got that he lived three years wow he was he died in may but in august he would have been six wow and how did what was it it's called neuro circle and what was it like for you for well well it was
easier on me because it was terrible we tried with martin we tried like i would take him to a show once or twice a week we need to we couldn't go off and leave sandy because in those days there weren't any nurses that knew anything about it i knew this and i learned to categorize him and everything like that because i didn't want him to be in the hospital all the time then if he would get a kidney infection i'd go muddy and the doctor would tell me and say bernice they get kidney infections from temporarizing in the hospital you're not don't try to be
exceptional well but of course you can see i'd be upset because he'd be so sick his people would get 105 then i'd have to take him to the hospital you know but soon as they didn't have anything see they didn't have penicillin or any of that so you would go to the shows to kind of relieve yeah and so naturally i take him to shows i like and that's how he got interested in shakespeare he loved shakespeare and all the good shows i touched him then brutus would take him to the show i didn't like love yeah and what was sandy like sandy was very
sensitive and smart as smart as morton is he might have been smarter but he might have been that way because ill and perceptive you know when it's it's like if you're born blind something else develops right right you know what i mean yeah and you excel in some other form so he was very sensitive to very sensitive people and he was always picking up my christmas presents he saw this like satin gown in the paper and he'd say daddy that's what you have for my mother for christmas and he loved it because he liked the feet smooth yeah so then so then after sandy passed
away did you stay in that house did you meet yeah well we stayed there until martin was in college wow because um everybody came to our house all the kids came to our house and that was such a blessing i wanted to adopt another child so dr um allison was his name and he was brutus's fishing partner good friend and he told me bernice i don't think you should adopt another child even in those days he said there's so many children to use and not taken care of go find something that you can do for them well so then for instance they started the download
association well they didn't have a piano so i played the accordion and i told them play all the time and miss gladly where we lived on hempfield she had bought this great big house next to us and had her thing there but they had no piano they couldn't afford a piano in those days and i'd go there on christmas easter new year whatever and play so that's when i started doing that you know i and then i uh volunteered during the war out at the veterans hospital they had a lot of people that were addicted in the south pacific you know they couldn't they didn't
have any doctors so they're just shooting with warfare and they couldn't take a pin in there they tried to they got addicted to the needle as well and then tried to cut the strings out of the piano wow and but i went there until i moved here and then they changed it to a halfway house for a uh addictive children huh so did you always just stay very involved in the social services side yeah and then from the temple they had a black school around there were segregated schools in those days about three blocks from the temple and in those days they were always already
having trouble reading and i was one of the volunteers when we went once or twice a week over there to try to tutor the children and even in those days you could see how things were changing with the parents the parents didn't want them to come they didn't want them to be bothered they wanted to come home with their sister their brother from school you know and they didn't care that they were learning it was pretty discouraging as a matter of fact the temple friendly stopped doing it because they didn't want us to grow in the neighborhood it's interesting so would you go home at
night and talk about it is that where mark got his interest in ideal down-to-earth social service i think so interesting but how did your family celebrate holidays our family always were we were very my mother and father were religious we celebrated every holiday now brutus was orthodox and they didn't you know what he said to me on the phone the other day he said in fact he wanted to add on to the tape that he discovered that as soon as he stopped being orthodox and started being reformed that's when his heartburn went away did you do it in your house did you do shabbat did
you have the holidays yes we did but um it wasn't as pronounced as it was we had purim and i took morton for every holiday you know for the temple every celebration and he was confirmed there was no bar mitzvah and really no that temple didn't happen no they didn't have them they had it at the shul and did they have sunday school oh yeah and he was good at sunday school and even taught in sunday school later but they didn't have apartments that didn't and i taught in sunday school did you really think that's the reason he talked you teach uh let's see i
think they were about fifth or sixth graders and i'd love to teach with hands-on things for instance whatever we story we were studying because i thought they were old enough i'd tell them to all bring an article out of the paper some thing that was happening in the world that pertain to the same situation they had a hard time connecting golden days to the present but i would say you know nothing changes you have to learn certain principles of honesty integrity etc and humanity right and you'll find those in the newspaper there's nothing interesting stupid tell me about um tell me about your um did
you used to still keep going to kansas city and did you ever close your family even with morton i couldn't go like sandy was sitting right but but when he was a baby and stuff like that you went yeah we always went up to kansas city in the summer and when i was little you know still at home we stayed three weeks with one time the family in three weeks with others do you ever wish that when you lived there i guess by the time you got to fort worth you had um i was familiar we already had family was beginning to come but was
it what was it different i mean do you think things would have been different if you had lived in kansas if you had stayed there how different would your life have been i think it would have been more close [Music] there were more jewish people and there were more segregation right except my mother's father and his family he was the kind of man he was orthodox and uh but he told my mother he said don't worry with it it's something i've done and i'm used to but he said since we have refrigeration kosher means clean and i know you keep a clean house and it's
not necessary so we never kept coaching right that's the reason we did so not because he didn't make my mother feel guilty because she wasn't really nice very you know yeah and when he died i'll never forget every race every creed and everything was at his funeral it was the biggest funeral you ever saw amazing what was his last name schleich lifestyle okay i'll have to ask around that's right but they all changed their name but just stein huh and the thing was i don't know if his his father died or something and his mother married this german doctor i still can't find when uh
we got this we were tracing these lines back to europe none of them were jewish huh i don't know if that was in her marriage or he was a german you know they burned a lot of germans to russia with going to the sure especially doctors and engineers sure peter the great started doing that exactly because they wanted to develop that area that's right just like the west here just like how your family got to port work exactly the same way but i'll tell you a funny story about my great uncle that brought my father down he was way before his time if you see
him he wore this snap brim hat like the germans do he dressed in his clothes just like he was in germany and smoked a big cigar one day something came up when he died there was all this property way down there on the at the end of texas where uh big ben park is and this thing piece of land was isolated you had to go through somebody else's range to get to it and he always wondered what in the world he did it was a rocky place nothing could be there but goats what in the world did he do with that and when my father
had all these cousins in germany left because when my uncle brought his sister's one sister stayed because she was married to a general in the kaiser's army and he didn't want to leave you know in world war one so by the time world war ii came the family was bigger you know spread out they my father brought them over and they arrived in fort worth the day mor morton sandy was no morton was born on june the 3rd by 1938 and they came to our house and they had two children and this one boy by then you know i was all grown up i had
a family and everything but his wife was really helped me she taught me to be the point she taught me to crochet she taught me all she was really knew all the finer things in life and up until that time i'd been a real-time boy but anyway then he was very close to their oldest son and i don't know if you know do you know ron hurstfield anyway uncle james used to tell him stories he's the one that told him the story about you know they went on the land drive in oklahoma right and the other story said uh asked me said uncle jake why
what did you do with that property down in in the big bed you never went there oh he said yes i did too that was before you were born he said well what did you do with it he said i used to buy guns and i sell them to pancho vegan and all those people no way that's amazing that's incredible incredible and supplying food stuff you know amazing brother but we finally sold that to the man that had the ranch next to it so tell me what are you most proud of let's get into like sort of your feelings now about about life and things
now for yourself you're like this is about you yeah well i'm really i am so proud of my grandchildren great grandchildren too you know i'm just i'm crazy about it and i'm so happy we found leslie she's more like me than i am that's the truth because the first time she walked in this house she said oh you had blue and white well she had a blue living room with white and she walked in the kitchen to eat breakfast with me she said i had these dishes those dance dishes and when she came here for the first passover you know she said i can't believe
these these are they're rosenthal china whitetail she said i have these same dishes unbelievable isn't that strange amazing that we pick out the same thing right and so now the family's just really come together oh yeah very well and um the thing about it is i say that that's hannah so because she's in love with miles her only son grandson perfect she even went to the bar mitzvah and didn't open her mouth because he was talking every once in a while she thought he was she missed what he's gonna say martin was holding her and when he'd sit down to the seat you know he's
kind of little she'd make him morton pop her up and let her stand so she could see his head amazing so funny so hannah's brought everybody together that's fun i said to her i think it's so nice of natalie and miles to take you dancing she was the funniest thing she was doing everything the girls were pups were doing she was doing that she's crossing her feet clapping you know on time she's got a lot of rhythm like she comes by honestly so i said to her i said hannah i think it's just wonderful that uh uh natalie and miles were teaching you that she
said not natalie she's what she's well thank you jorge very much okay do you have any advice or thought that you want to give your your granddaughters on marriage i mean you have one of the most successful long-lived marriages well we have our differences as everybody does but the thing is they're both married to such i think this is very unusual both of them are married to successful wonderful loving men i mean jamie as busy as he is he still gives hannah a bath every night and spends time with him reads to him puts his bed because he knows marty doesn't have that much fun
anymore and rob is a wonderful father so i think we're very fortunate and i tell them all the time the girls i say you just start on how fortunate you are i have husbands like that right and was really brutus wasn't i mean you had it and he didn't know he wasn't like that at all he wasn't no but he was he was a good good father for instance if he'd go golfing he'd put morgan in a rock wagon and pull him around with it you know and he was brutus is a man with a lot of integrity reading and honesty and he taught morton
that that was the most important thing in mind not how much money you made but how what people thought of right well he had moore was very lucky he is very lucky to have i mean you're the same way he was the apple of my eye of course well he knows just like he knows it that's right didn't you gotcha is there anything else you want to share with us well i can't think of anything else those were the highlights if i think of anything else i do like brutus i'll call you that's right ron is there anything that i should have asked that i
didn't think of that's it okay that's an overview of this is your life that's our name that's your husband that's right that's the only thing that irritates bruce i put bernice g myerson when i and tom luce told me to do that he said you know when you die you don't know if you put bernice meyerson you don't know who can claim something that a woman should put her initial from her lady name interesting and then i i kind of poo-pooed it in my mind and two weeks later i was reading gourmet magazine and there was a girl signed her name on a recipe bernice
meyer so there you go so i went out and changed everything in that interest yes all right i'm glad i'm still using shirts