Beverly Tobian
Beverly Tobian was born in 1924 in Omaha, Nebraska. Her paternal grandparents came from Poland and ran a large, successful men's clothing business in Fremont, Nebraska, which was lost in the Depression, prompting her father to move to Omaha to remain in the clothing trade. Her maternal grandfather, who spoke perfect English and had apprenticed in Liverpool, was in the furniture business. She recalled hard times growing up, though she never felt deprived, and remembered small details of the era such as the iceman coming to the house. She admired her mother, whom she described as ahead of her time, curious about nutrition, and once traveling to California as a young woman to work for a Hollywood director. Beverly had an older brother nineteen months her senior, who was obsessed with airplanes and later served in the war, and a much younger brother.
Beverly graduated from the University of Iowa, where she began in 1942 and majored in languages, later teaching a freshman Spanish course as returning servicemen arrived. During her college years she attended a Zionist camp in the Poconos before the establishment of the State of Israel, an experience she found unexpectedly interesting. She married a hometown man and moved to a small Oklahoma oilfield town called Drumright, later to Tulsa, where she raised two daughters. As her first husband's bipolar illness became acute, she returned to school at the University of Tulsa, earning another degree and a master's so she could teach and support her household. After divorcing, she was introduced through her brother to Milton Tobian, and the two married within about a month of meeting.
Milton Tobian, from a prominent Dallas family long connected with Temple Emanu-El, closed his cotton business and, with the help of his friend Bob Strauss, helped launch Common Cause in Texas, moving to Austin before the couple settled in Dallas in 1975. Beverly worked nine years at the Bloom Advertising Agency, then devoted herself to community service. She became chairman of the board of Jewish Family Service, served as a temple president and led its social action committee, and was active with Women's Council and Mental Health America. She spent eight years heading a health and human services advocacy effort before Dallas City Council, fighting for seniors, the disabled, low-income residents, and healthcare, and worked to improve accessible transportation. Honored with the Maura Award and Peacemakers Award, she took special pride in her artist daughter and her granddaughter, an adopted child from China.
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really let's just start out tell me what is the Murrah award the Mora award and may you are a that's an award to women of achievement who have concentrated their efforts on helping women and you receive that award this year yes it's an award that's given out every year but it's really let's say the ultimate in women's achievements and in the community so that you know you're going to receive the award or what was it like when you got that phone call well most of my friends have gotten it and it's as I say it's the ultimate but when they called i demurred i said
no i thank you very much i had just received the peacemakers award and i had given a 15 minute speech and I said you know I've said everything I have to say and I said I thank you very very much and I'm honored but thank you know she said would you like to know how many people are the people who nominated you and I said well you can tell me that and which I started making the list I began to feel that I owed them now what was it what was the work what is the work that you do on a regular basis that you
were able to receive this item for years of working in the community whether it's on this item Jewish issues I was you know past president of Jewish Family Service certainly board temple president Women's Council in all of these they're trying to make life better for women when children and this gives you great joy absolutely my Burton transportation I helped really define the dark handy rides when dot was going to have to serve the women and disabled and they were trying to set up a program and it was so abominable and I got myself involved in and I said it's not it's not fair not abiding
by the by the ad a and I said we're going to have to do a better job they were new at it but I had some experience myself not in transportation but in working with with women and the design i debated with him I i went to the board meetings and i spoke frequently before the board with issues my husband and i even took his side as some of the the disabled who had informed a group of their own and they didn't know how to advocate and we spent a Saturday with him and gave him some advice on how to advocate and they became so
efficient and that they he did a great job what is your greatest achievement you thinking in doing something for the community I would say our interaction with City Council we have really changed changed some of the things the directions that they were going and we've done it very very effectively and I say that I have headed the health and human services for eight years and this is an organization has no board we don't have a president it's just me and then they and a recorder and we are open to any groups that want commitments we have very very effective as advocates and we go to
city city council every single year we study the budget and we single out those items that affects seniors the disabled low-income healthcare and then we fight like hell for every one of those things they got they had a a council there that they paid for and they were not supposed to be for for seniors and for taking care of seniors and it was not effective and so they got off their budget we picked up that med strain and and and that's what we do and they have a profound respect for us they treat us with respect we walk up there where they're almost every single
day during the summer while they're developing their budget and we've got a very good relationship and very soon and the same manager and they respect us what was it that got you started I went away to college that was during the war I started 1942 and that was a year the war began and those were my four years in college and about in that my third year I got a call from I was always sort of involved in community at home always it everything the rabbi said and he started any programming started I'd say I'd be part of that so is a curiosity as much
as anything else and so I got a call from a community a woman who is very active in in my home community and she said we would like to go to camp how about a camp in the Poconos I said well that sounds like a great idea was not a camper didn't go as a youngster and so the Poconos sounded very exciting to me and when I got there I realized that it was a Zionist camp now remember this is before the establishment State of Israel this was 1940 and I'm 4544 and I got into that camp and I thought oh god I gotta get
out of here I don't know what this is all about and so I was almost tempted to call home and same folks get me home I thought no I'm stronger than that i'm going to have to stay here and it was a interesting there was such an interesting mix of people of young people most of them were from he had the first big campfire and I can remember looking around and these kids don't even look like me short shorts tight tops and their language is a little bit different they were from New York and I thought I don't know how I'm going to fit in
here Here I am my long white shorts and my you know white church downtrend sneeze down to here and I looked across the campfire I see somebody else who looks exactly like me and I'm not we've got genetic credit discovered she's from Kansas now you can understand why we had an affinity because here she wasn't kit from Kansas but it was the most interesting experience it was run by a doctor bardeen who was affiliated with preparing young people for a layout what we call ollie on which means going to israel and was in israel at that time it was going to establish a community in
Israel and these are young people my age I was extremely impressed with that I'm getting off to upstage let's go back for me let's go back 1924 Omaha Nebraska bag that's where you're born right what do you remember when you're a little girl well times were tough prevented yes my my my father's father from fremont nebraska had a very large very successful men's clothing business and when the Depression hit that store was lost so my father came to omaha to stay in the clothing business and so i know i think for a short period of time we live with my other grandparents so it was
tough times very very tough times and your parents talk to you about it at all i know you were very young nah not really no and I never had a sense that things were hard or that I can never ask for that much I was not a demanding child and my grandparents were this set of grandparents were very very comfortable and we had those few years we're very good and then my third then my second brother came along and see my older brother was 19 months older than I so we were quite close and then seven years later a long time was another another brother
and he was special tell me tell me more about your grandparents now where they originally come from tell me by my grandfather on my mother's side spoke perfect English he grew up he apprenticed in in Liverpool as a matter of fact never talked about where his original homeless I couldn't I couldn't tell you where he was from the grandparents on my father's side I mean my yeah where we're from Poland and as I say they were very comfortable in the years that I knew them that then they had a slight accent what business were they in men's clothing employed okay what am I and they
bet the maternal or in furniture they had a furniture stir now you're dead he came to Omaha to start the men's clothing business Andy God worked for himself he worked for a company 40 years but he was outstanding in his field he was known to be okay sartorio spa later tell me about your mama my mother was a gem well ahead of her time she really was she was interested in in nutrition don't ask me where that came from is just a curiosity shed film you should know that when she and her cousin there were 17 years old she graduated high school in the three
years and they decided they would go to California and sink their fortunes of the two women girls went and they worked for a director ammonia director and she then started chasing around the table she says it was it's just she decide it was time to come back home who's that director do you remember I don't know one of the old-timers what other Hollywood stories that she have she didn't really know they stayed for about a year year and a half but she's a great secretary and I'm sure she did well in the confident very confident that was your dad when that was your dad in
the service at all you know and you know I don't I don't okay I just wondering if you might have been in World War one no I because I don't remember any pictures any military pictures or anything on that he may he may have been no I don't think so now you grew up at a time when when there was a great changes being made you know possibly do you remember the Iceman coming to the house I do I certainly certainly do indian comin you had to remember make sure that every X last until the next time you showed up we always had enough ice
and and enough enough food roger was frugal however remember your first car my first car we have to know I didn't drive until I well that was a story my brother is going to teach me how to drive you see and on the street that we lived if you went one and we went to the corner it was a sort of a dead end he went to the corner you had to go either up a hill or down him and he's going to be the one who's going to teach me I get behind the wheel and I get to the corner and I looked up
that hill I said no it's better if I don't make it to be going from ferns have said backwards so I turned the other way to go down the hill and it looks so horrendous to me that I just made a complete circle and ran into the telephone pole so my brother said to me don't you ever get behind a wheel again this is I'm through I didn't I didn't I was driven until I got married whoa and we went to this small town and no a field town and that's when I learned how they're done Wow amazing that where was it you went to
college you receive Iowa okay you wouldn't the University of I yeah that's an Iowa City right and then um world war two broke out how did that affect you your family it was already broken out the first year I went and it was in 42 it was that December and my older brother went to love planes absolutely obsessed with planes made model airplanes with the pee all over the house I knew that that was the direction he was going to go and he went to a technical back then you know it didn't have a great deal but there was a technical institute that he went
to in California and stay there until he was called to service and he never saw any of the fighting was sent to some otra Trinidad that's where he was sent tried to get flight training and his eyes were not without past and so tremendous disappoint you graduated from University of Iowa leadership Alan ok after collars know what's probably going to do well interestingly enough I went to I my major was languages which is really ridiculous because back then when you when you learn languages you didn't have a you know what was it you know yes what is it term I would and all you did
was read in the book and recite you didn't have the experience of exchange of you know any interesting exchange just that's not the way they taught it my mother kept saying to me on the time I was in college you must take a course in houma a hated home and I was never good in the kitchen ever if my mother sent me down down the basement to pick up a jar of something I would drop it before I just was not interested she recognized that fact and never pushed it on me but she kept saying before you get out of college take home at course
so I signed up got the book had one class and then the boys started coming back from stp and and they were looking for people to students who would be advanced enough in languages to teach a freshman Spanish course head first I signed up but of course I had to get rid of a course in the first course I thought that was Bo Mac so I didn't that's what I did when year it was a very interesting experience now where did you meet your first husband he was a hometown boy and and that was one of those things that you know each of us was
thought of in a very special way the community used to would say oh this is a marriage made in heaven and found it didn't end up quite that way now what did you guys get married when did we get married I think it was 1940 you know he had just bought into a piping supply business in a small oilfield town called drum right Oklahoma grandma's an experience in itself and he had to travel a lot and sometimes have went with him and sometimes I didn't have it was a godforsaken place there's a gold filled town no you had two children together and that marriage ended
in a divorce yes how did you get to dallas texas well i had been divorced for two years and not the least bit interested in getting married again i had the two girls and i was teaching at that time and i met realizes where was this was in tulsa virus yes we moved from that from the oilfield town to tulsa maybe still married that they were very involved in then young jewish community until my husband's bipolar situation became acute and then he was not it really not able to function it was beginning to be a reality to me that i was going to have to
be prepared to assume the financial didn't know on my family wanted me to give it up but I was one of those who said you made you better buy it you know and and so I just was trying to think of ways that we could maintain a household and he had a very nice home and Chris we began to drop out of all kind of social thing is that we were involved in before and I went back to school and got another degree and so that i could teach what school was this with vector university of tulsa ok and and as long as i was
living in it i decided to go on for masters so I just continued yeah good for you and because I wanted to maintain my the same some point that I wanted to keep my homework and I wanted my kids in the same school right and so I just took on that responsibility but he was unable to punch did you come to dallas after tulsa my father had passed away my mother had moved down to Tulsa where I was and then I had the brother who was living in dallas and she said when i got the divorce you were going down to to dallas i said
no you're going i said my kids are gonna finish school here and so but we would drive down periodically my younger brother and his wife were living here and so I drove them down and my sister I was obsessed and seeing that I've I met somebody I said I don't care to meet anybody you're gonna meet somebody so she said she told my brother you're going to get her a date so it so happened that one of his friends who had been in college but he went to the University of Oklahoma and one of his buddies he goes to him it was Alvin builtin I
never forget and he said Alan you met my sister he says whom do know that would make a nice date for my sister and he said you know I heard that vitsin milkman tobia was divorcing he says you know I think they'd make a nice couple and that's there was nobody else after that it was up within I think a month after we had known each other I think we know that that was good and he settled in Dallas you know actually he was changing his word he closed he had it was in the Cotton Exchange they had a cotton see business seen as madness
in his father had been very very successful but in business was showing that he always was committed to a community always and very much interested in politics and that sort of thing he was very good at it and so he just closed the doors of the Cotton Exchange and decided he was going to he went to your interesting he went to Washington I guess Bob Strauss who was very close friend of his through the years I went to see botanists I want to do something for the community is what do you suggest I do and he says one took over and see John who was
starting a new bloomin what was that movement it was common cause and he says they want to start coming cause in the state of Texas and the state of Texas was just getting over the you know a very bad period that was up and so is it was right for some good for good politics and so he came and he was when I met him he was in the process of going from dallas which had been his home always to austin and so that's where we we spent three years ago this was 1973 okay and then we eventually come up the dells moved here in
1975 and we were state we were looking for a home and we were staying with my brother-in-law and sister-in-law melt the sister and her dr. Eisenberg and he got a call that my daughter Susan komen married nine months who was living in in Kansas City at the time and had just been married was very ill and I didn't tell me any details but my husband and I were told him we'd better get on up on a plane of course I thought she had both girls had asthma terrible asthma and it was this eldest one who had the worst and by the time I got up there she had sorry but we we went and looked for a house we founded the house and I said just let's just move in I'm
going to work I never had any work experience here in and even in Rome Dallas and it was starting out fresh it was not easy after all Todd school I was not interested in going back into the school system here and but I found a job at at an advertising agency the bloom advertising agency and I stayed there for nine years so in that period of time I really Milton did most of the politicking and I would just dabble and you know is something interested me I would but then I started being very active in Jewish Family Service right and there I I really became
involved and learn more about the community and so forth and and worked my way up through that the agency until I became its chairman of the board and it was a bad year that they changed the head of their organization so Michael you know came here you were also involved with temple emanuel yes of course milton and his father were instrumental in the building of that building and so the family was really deeply connected with with the temple emanuel headed the social action committee which is a very very active that was you know some of the things that we did in the community in the
broader community but I became really interested in the broader community I just it wasn't enough to do Jewish work right we wanted to make a difference in the community now in your lifetime you've lived through so many momentous occasions some good some not so good of course grew up in the depression time the through World War two the other Wars obviously we had the tragedy of 911 something good to moon landing in 69 President Kennedy assassinated here in Dallas that something on the national scene really affect you and your family well we've always been interested in politics known around for City Council unsuccessfully and I
I did not feel that they that there was a place for me in politics per se I became interested in City Council and became attached to several women's organizations that were were involved with that and one of the organization's was actually begun in the middle but with Mental Health America and it was it was a that was a paid job and that person established and very wonderful background for women like me to become acquainted with health care in the city with transportation needs with housing housing became an obsession with me your grandkids from your other daughter in Dallas yes she didn't want children okay and
about the way if you pick up the magazine d mom is this month d magazine you'll find a picture of her and my my grandchild in there she's an artist and Julie listen zealous area and she does try to David Ralston she kept her she's an artist as I said kept her her julie cohn and how many how many children do they have 11 remember I said she didn't want any children he did and so they decided to adopt this Chinese child and when i say to you to pick a child 13 months old the million miles away in china and plop that child down
into a household with my son-in-law a daughter you couldn't have made a better match it's a miracle my daughter is an artist my son-in-law is a landscape designer i guess that would be the best she now is designing jewelry but she began with a very interesting business called two women boxing and they were doing hand crafts beautiful beautiful stationery we step all hand done and had ten women working for them is a very interesting very unusual group but she's been interested in our to all her life well you went to the Kansas City Arts Art Institute did you think of your lifetimes you were raised
in through now and you think of your granddaughter and you know her life now what advice does grandma want to leave to the next generation she's such a bright child she is she's a strategist I've never seen anybody beat everybody then she plays a chess she's just got she's well as I say this is just a remarkable child and adore her but all these so many of these honors that I have gotten she's been in attendance and she turns to me oh grandma I'm so proud of you so bye I don't have to say to her she sees it and and and she's an achiever
she's just remarkable a remarkable child and very sweet and so it's sort of a mutual admiration society and isn't that I have to sit and talk to her about did a great job thanks for doing this