Carol Kreditor
Carol Kreditor was born in 1960 in Houston, Texas, and grew up in the then brand-new Memorial area, surrounded by wildlife and open ditches. She was especially close to her mother's family, who lived nearby. Her father was a CPA at an accounting firm, and her maternal grandfather ran Zuber Tire Company, which he founded in the 1920s and kept until retiring in his late seventies or early eighties. Her maternal grandfather was born in Houston in 1898, among the first in his family born in America after relatives arrived, likely through Galveston, from the Romania and Russia region. Her paternal grandfather was an engineer with GE, and her great-grandfather ran a grocery store and studied Talmud with her father.
When Carol was nine, her father's Houston firm merged with a Chicago-based company, and the family moved to Highland Park, Illinois. Though it was a culture shock, she came to love Chicago, appreciating its strong Jewish community and small-town feel within a big city. She attended Highland Park High School and enjoyed homecoming traditions, a kazoo band in the July Fourth parade, and trips into the city for Cubs games and Second City. She then attended Tulane University in New Orleans. When her parents moved to Atlanta during her freshman year, she decided after graduating to try Dallas, drawn by its energy, young population, high salaries, and low cost of living.
Carol arrived in Dallas in 1982 and spent two years in public accounting before joining Trammell Crow, where she worked for eighteen years in finance and asset management, including development projects across the country. She later joined former colleagues at Crow Holdings-related ventures. She met her husband Mark, who works in residential real estate, property management, and leasing, and they married in 1986, settling into a series of homes all within two miles of one another. The couple has two children who attended Jewish day school. Carol and Mark are active in the Federation, Levine and Yavneh schools, and Maccabi, and she reflected on finding contentment and appreciating each day as her guiding philosophy.
Full Transcript
Carol 1960 Houston Texas let's go back what do you remember about Houston when you're were just a little girl it is where I grew up so you know from just a living standpoint we were we lived out in Memorial which was brand new then and lots of wildlife lots of snakes and there were BOS and ditches and you know just a very very different not so cos poan as it is now and then my my mom was from Houston and so her family was there and we spent a lot of time at my grandparents place and I had an uncle there and we had you
know we had a lot of family but I was real close with my grandparents what did your dad do for a living my dad was a CPA he worked for an accounting firm okay and what about your grandparents what can you tell us about them my uh grandparents this is on my mother's side he actually had a tire store Zuber Tire company and he had started it you know I guess in the 20s cuz I know he had it during the Depression and he's so tires although he sort of branched out when you know rubber was hard to get I know like they sold refrigerators
and some other things but I mean he had this store until he retired when he was in his 80 late 70s early 80s do they ever talk about how the depression affected them you ever hear any of those stories you know he wasn't so affected by the depression which I don't know if that's all of Houston because Houston was just so growing and just so different than the northeast or if it was just him and what he did but you know we did ask him and I you know I don't think he was really affected yeah what about your grandparents on the other side they
um my father's mother died when he was very young and my father's father was he was an engineer and worked for GE and actually invented something but GE took the credit for it some sort of electrical something and he ended up leaving there and it was sort of a joke that my great-grandfather whenever anybody had a problem he bought them a grocery store so he ran a grocery store you know for a long time but he was an engineer by trade right do you happen to know what it was he invented no something ACDC with a like plug and you know but no I don't
yeah it had to be a tough on him yeah you know I'm sure it was yeah he also died when I was young so I didn't really know him so well now do you know where your grandparents came from were they born here or they come from the old country actually um my mother's family was born here my grandfather was born in 1898 in Houston we think they came in through Galveston and he had six brothers and sisters and I think he was third and the first one born here the other two were born in um sort of the Russian you know Romania area and
my grandmother was was born here in 1908 and she was in um Romania and my grandfather my grandparents on my dad's side I'm I'm not as sure about I've heard stories of my great-grandfather coming over um and you know some of his trials and tribulations well tell us about him well I know that he lived in New York for a while and he was a you know he was a big man and he married um uh syia and there were stories I guess she worked in a factory and there was a picket line and she wanted to cross the picket line and he went to
protect her and some man came you know ran up to try and stop her and I think he had a shovel and like hit him with the shovel or you know something like that but all that night after that I think they ended up moving they went to Atlanta from New York um and pop had a grocery store and he was a very he drew he grew tobacco in his backyard he was a very very smart man my dad used to study Tomas with him although I don't know that they were particularly religious but they like the study part you know and um I remember
him he had a big porch swing you know so I remember going and sitting in his backyard and but I mean he I don't know how old I was when he passed away but I was probably like four or five you know so I just have very Distant Memories now did World War II do you know affect your family at all no it didn't um you know I think just the ages they were I guess I know more about my mom's family but you know my grandfather there was you know in his late 30s by the time the war um you know broke out and
so he didn't serve and you know my grandfather on my father's side didn't either and so you know I think he was too young so they just kind of missed it yeah so and really they missed all all the wars they never served my I had two older uncles my grandfather had two brothers who did serve um and one was Anne actually this is interesting my my grandfather's brother was he was very brilliant and from E I guess it must have been in the 30s he went to Harvard Law School which you know was of a big deal then I think he went for 2
years and didn't really come home and he came back and he practiced law until the day that his parents died he hated it he hung up a shingle and sold suits at sackowitz for the rest of his life and was incredibly happy never or and but he did he was enlisted in the Army and he never had to fight he ended up handling the divorce for his um Superior officer and so he kind of kept him close to handle like some of his problems and then my other Uncle who served he was a really good basketball player he actually was captain of the rice basketball
team which was a big deal for you know someone who was Jewish in the 20s 30s yeah I guess it was probably the 30s early 30s and um he ended up sort of playing sports throughout the war so so they were both very lucky yeah yeah where did you go to grammar school I went to frust Elementary in Houston until I was nine and then we moved to Chicago to Highland Park and I went just in fourth grade I started there so what what precipitated the move to Chicago my dad had an accounting firm in Houston called far Miller and Beerman and they merged with
Alexander grant that was based out of Chicago so we moved to Chicago when I was nine okay so what was that like for you was that a culture shock for you yeah it was you know it was sort of before the World is Flat and things were very different in Houston also the world was really changing then like when before my move girls mostly wore dresses and they played on the playground but they played different than the boys and I think that was changing everywhere but it was further along in Chicago and so it was just a very very different culture you know and I
was a new kid and not to mention the weather so it took me a while to get acclimated there but I really liked it I ended up loving Chicago and it was a great place to grow up you know in some ways I'm I missed having a lot of family cuz we didn't have family in Chicago but particularly being Jewish it was a really really you know good place to grow up more so than Houston that had a much smaller Jewish Community yeah where'd you go to high school in Chicago Highland Park High School Highland Park High School what was high school life like for
you high school is great I was so smart I knew everything I just was you know I had a good group of friends and you know people I'm still close with and so that's nice and we just we were in a suburb of Chicago so we had a lot of freedom it was kind of like being in a small town in a big city and it was really nice and you know we had the sporting events and homecoming was a big deal and we would paint the windows you know there was a c which was the main street in Highland Park and you'd paint the
windows for homecoming and we had a kazoo band for the 4th of July parade and there were fireworks it was very small townish for being in such a big city but then we'd go into the City and we'd see Cup games and we'd go to Second City and we'd you know really take advantage of being the city my parents took me to theater and that was nice you know I got to see Henry fondon I got to see Carl Channing and that was all you know very cool yeah yeah now Chicago is a very big Sports Town it seems both the men and women enjoy
the sports did you like going to the Cub games yes you know it's funny my father was not such a sports fan my grandfather and my uncle are I'm probably the biggest sports fan in my family my daughter is a little bit and my husband Mark he he he likes it okay but I'm probably the biggest sports fan they actually watch the races a lot like they used to go to the Kentucky Derby and you know they would go the horse races they go to New Orleans and you know but and Chicago was a big Sports town and I I really I did like that
but my father you know he watched football on Sundays and then fell asleep but it wasn't his thing you who who was your favorite Chicago cup that when I went to college I had a roommate who was also from Chicago just by coincidence I didn't know her and I think it was Dave Kingman we had a picture of him in our dorm room so she loved him yeah yeah there was someone else Billy Billy Buckner was that the other guy Billy Buckner yeah now where'd you go to college uh uh to tane in New Orleans okay okay um again another big move for you yes
you you know talk to me about college life uh college was good um you New Orleans is such a different place that it was very interesting I just don't know that it was the right the best place for me but I enjoyed it I mean you know I I mean how can you not enjoy College uh you know and and New Orleans was just so so very very different you know the people were very different it was such a big party atmosphere it was such a you know structured Society you know the blacks the creels the you know the the whole cast system there was
just very very different which I didn't get so involved in because I was in college although I did know some people from New Orleans but it was just very interesting you know now after you graduated where did you wind up did you go to work had you gotten married my parents moved to Atlanta when I was a freshman in college and I never really loved Atlanta and so I decided to come to Dallas I always thought I'd go back to Atlanta just because I I'm so close with family so you graduated from Tain your family leaves Chicago and goes to Atlanta and you decide to
go to Dallas yeah um where did that come from you know I think Dallas there was a TV show it was really hot then Dallas had more young people there were people flocking here and it was just really a great place to be I went to work for a public accounting firm and I had a friend who went to New York to work for a firm you know all the big eight and a friend who went to Chicago and dalls paid the highest salaries and had the lowest cost of living and it just it just seemed like it would be fun it was an adventure
now where did you meet Mark in Dallas I came Mark came after college in ' 81 and I came after college in ' 82 and I think we met in '85 you know maybe we had met a little bit before then but not really but we started dating in ' 85 okay when did you guys get married 86 okay and then where did you settle down here right yeah actually we've lived in three houses all within 2 miles of each other we've never really strayed very far yeah yeah and and what business is Mark in Mark is um he does a residential real estate he
has a property management and Leasing Company okay and for residential real estate okay and then did you go to work or did you raise a family I I worked I always worked I am I was in public county for 2 years and then I went to work for tremal Pro and I was there for 18 years um you know sort of on the commercial side doing finance and asset management a lot of development um across the country and I left there after 18 years as I said and I took a little bit of time off and now I work for three guys who also left
cro C and D Ventures so I work with them now okay and talk to me about the Jewish Community here for you what's your involvement now um we're very involved perh a little bit too involved um but I love the Jewish Community I really like being part of a community and it's funny my sister's in Atlanta and just you know sort of comparing the Dallas Community to other Jewish communities that I know of you know we have friends in different cities Dallas is sort of easy to get your arms around you know you can really participate in it and understand it and you know we're
not as spread out as other people are so I me both my husband and I are very active in the Federation our kids went to um Jewish Day School so we're active at LaVine and we're active at yava um and now we're working on makabi we're getting ready for the Israel trip the big one in January so we we we do a lot what's your happiest time in your life that I would like to say today cuz every day should be really really happy you know I'm not one to wait to be happy or to look back on being happy I mean you know there
were so many Milestones but um I'm pretty good at finding joy and little things and not just the big Milestones so I can't really answer that now you mentioned your grandfather and uh and an invention of his what about an invention that came along during your lifetime that you went wow how do we get along without that yeah you know it's funny we we try and remember when we got our first car phone like we we kind of remember those big cell phones that we took I think they weren't even called cell phones they were called something different but you know that we took on
vacation but we can't I can't even remember remember when we had our first car phone and you know so I know it was before ' 91 cuz I remember calling my mom from the car when I Bor but you know so that that's probably the biggest thing I mean obviously you know the internet and you know how we communicate with people and all that has really really changed but probably my personal life you know yeah phones mobile phones what were the music groups when you were a kid growing up well my first albums were Carol King Tapestry and Simon and gar bridge over trouble rers
um but you know I like Chicago a lot you know Beach Boys Billy Joel Elton John and you know a lot of them are still around El John just played bonaroo last night you know but um you know those types band I actually lived um near this music Park in Chicago called rinia and it was an outdoor Music Park and they had great great music they had Symphony which was really fun you could go picnic and then they had Kenny loggin and B Mow and you you know Paul mcartney and all those people would come and it was really great now in your lifetime you've
lived through so many momentous occasions of course when you were very young President Kennedy assassination the moon landing for the first time in ' 69 something good there was the uh Challenger tragedy uh attempt on President Reagan's life um of course the tragedy of 911 was there something on the national scene in your lifetime that you really took notice that you remembered where you were exactly when it happened that affected you well 911 I mean you know the most the other events it's funny you talk about I was sort of young Kennedy I was way too young the moonwalk we were moving from Chicago to
I mean from us Chicago the next day and that was all I cared about and Nixon resigned and all they had the trials and all I cared about was on my TV wasn't on so that's like you know that was the extent of my concern over all that but 9911 was a big deal for our family you know we had family in New York at the time although we don't know anyone who was you know touched by it which is very lucky um but you know I think we realized when it happened how Monumental it would be and it was it it was you know
that has to be the turning point you know it changed our lives I guess I would say um you have a sister younger or older older where is she at she's in Atlanta okay and she has two sons and one of her sons actually is in Dallas now so that's very fun oh so you feel like you you won huh yeah she gets to visit more so that's nice well you and Mark have two children yes what advice would you want to leave to the Next Generation my advice would be to appreciate every day and never to be wishing for things you don't have and
just appreciate it the things you have I think finding contentment is much more important than finding happiness well you did a great job today thank you