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good morning today is july 19 2019 i'm joe reingold and i'm interviewing chip rosenson good morning chip boca joe goodbye tell us about your family and your parents and grandparents what you know about them where they were born and where they grew up my grandparents my father's father was from the town of vitas vitas in russia and he he journeyed to america around the year around the turn of the 20th century and he came to new orleans and with his father his father was the founder and the first president of beth israel singing all over new orleans oh the largest orthodox health relation there about
my father's mother came from lithuania and their family stopped the iron all the way and then settled in atlanta georgia and and my grandfather helped help find her to find find her um if we don't find someone for my look for a wife from my father but my father said well i want to get married he finally got married to my mother at about age 30 35 or so where did they meet they've been in new orleans i'm from new orleans my uh my mother's father was from his family is from prussia and they moved here around 18 in the 1860s they moved through a
small town called nakitus which is also the oldest town in the province oldest permanent town in the louisiana purchase territory they um they established a retail store there and it's still operating it's the longest continuing operating retail store in the country what's the name of it uh it's called kathy fredericks kennedy ferris hard in retail like hardware or whatever and um it's my mother's mother came from saint louis and one of her cousins was um joshua roth liebman who was a rabbi at the tip of israel in boston and wrote the book peace of mind a very famous book at the time he was he
was ahead of his time in reconciling religion and psychology so i'm very proud to have that in my background and and um my my grandparents my mother's parents uh lived in shreveport and then my mother moved to orleans she got a new cut to go to newcomer which is now part of tulane and my father um my father had um had uh went to school in loyola new orleans he got he got accepted to harvard for undergraduate but without a scholarship he needed a scholarship he said but he got a scholarship with loyola then he spent some time at the university of michigan and then
at lsu he got a masters in english i read his thesis recently on ambassador's thesis on on the on the um the courtesan of elizabeth elizabeth drama you know i was impressed by very impressed by and so he became a lawyer and and um working in the field of louisiana real estate transactions louisiana law is is separate from is different from other states because it goes by the civil code of the napoleonic code as opposed to the common law and my also gave a course on he he specialized in louisiana real estate transactions he gave a course on that at the tulane law school gratis
he gave the garage and he was he is probably the world's greatest authority on this subject gun louisiana real estate transactions so um you know so i was born on november 28th 1953 joined joined by my brother 17 17 months later malcolm david rosenstein they joined 15 months after that by my sister he was a who at the time was called syrian carolyn rosenstein and we grew up in new orleans if freshman to public schools and then it switched over to a private school one of perhaps the best private school in the state of louisiana i did very well there i was i graduated second
in my class i won the award i won the dan annapol award i was voted by my uh by my fellow students as the most respected esteemed member of the class i was happy that mental and i got accepted about the five colleges uh harvard columbia brandeis washington university and the university of michigan i got it sent to the offline and i decided to go to harvard and i was up at harvard for a while and then and then um i crashed when i was in harvard my holidays were kind of watershed the body like came back came from before it came after afterwards and
i i i was just i was i had a mental nervous breakdown i had had trouble with my roommate and i got help from the walking psychology clinic there they hospitalized me twice and they ended up withdrawing from hall but even though i still made the uh the dean's list for that semester i was so i went back to new orleans and i tried to try to recover but i had 20 electoral shock treatments uh it was after a hospital i have to realize that psychiatric hospital and i was i had a lot of medications it didn't work and in fact i was getting worse
so uh my parents sent me inside the timberlands psychiatric hospital in dallas and i came there in 1975 i said almost two years there's an invitation and then two more two and a half two and a half years as the in the halfway house and about eight years in the department of living plan so after about an unheard of 12 years of progressing through the timberland system i finally moved out to north dallas in my own apartment i've never looked back and never had to return much to all that that's over done with that been there done that so it's all yeah so i did
pretty well um i i wasn't i went to the world on fire or anything like that but i was doing pretty well and but then in the year 2000 um my doctor put me on a brand new medication zyprexa which uh it worked it it was like a miracle drug for me i i my mental health led forward almost an expeditionary and exponentially expanded my life i became my mind well mine came back it's almost like i was a renaissance almost like a rebirth of how it was before i got here i was able to um to read again and i'm assistant i'll be reading
reading reading like crazy i read about when i can all day long into the night when i can't i try to read every spare moment i get part yeah it's probably kind of enjoy but probably because i lost so much time that i want to make up for it yeah and um i also often in the community i i'm known as a very professional and spiritual corey i read both of the torah and typically manuel for that last eight years i've read timothy emmanuel in the old and maine sanctuary in yoki poor so that's a great honor i was awesome very active at um at
irving club morale this this young people as i did last year i'm going to leave the services chant the tourings and give the sermons but also in the middle of the day i'm gonna take her and take time off to go to the temple manual i'm gonna read the tour there and then return to irving finish up the the uh afternoon and then the healer services there also um i believe in education i've been stu i'm i've been enrolled in melton for the first two years and i've been in gesture classes now for i guess over 10 years maybe 10 years and i enjoy the
learning i have maybe two role models in the community one rabbi frank joseph who is a rabbi and irving campbell and several other places around the state he's been a role model and a mentor to me for decades and i have a new venture one of my teachers at the at the gesture class is reid heller in the new mentor of mine yes um so what other questions would you like to ask well are you involved in anything else either civically or jewishly in the community besides the synagogues is there anything else that you're involved in and that you enjoy here at the windsor um
i am i lived at the wendystein living facility for the last four years i served and saw the jewish chaplain for its uh for jewish residents i facilitate our combination of my services friday late friday afternoons and i give i give devon tour at every service any each service also i'll pass overseas services after which i was recognized one year as a resident of the month and that was involved in jewish education learning i also taught a young a young man that the at the high program somebody who is a slow learner and suffering from mental retardation i taught him for his ball mission as
an adult he was able to read from the torah school and make them on their side i think it i think it uh changed his life it was it was good it was just as good for me as well so would you say that was one of the things you're the most proud of or can you think of it i'm very proud of that very proud about it i'm very proud of my um um there are other activities i do as well um i've been involved in playing liberty assistant there in north texas a program for um for those who are for mental health consumers
those who suffer from mental illness i was on the board of directors for four years and i won the award for the outstanding participant in 2006 and in 2003 i won the consumer volunteer of the year award and then um search is a president about like washington militia board an elite group of nine to nine planned consumers prime mental health consumers we we were the cream of the crop we we kind of directed the whole plan program from the from the re from the client side as president won an award as president for the distinction of the leadership uh um i still um was was
the founder co-founder and co-editor of a consumer magazine called the plan musics which uh uh which was a first-rate magazine i wrote a comment on every every uh in every issue called chip's church then that's my two pet parakeets this is a cherry with their triple trips i hope to share the black community with mine and also for the last for the last 12 years i've been able to uh address the with the dallas police department the um the crisis intervention training program for prospective uh police officers educating them how to on how to interact with those who are suffering from their illnesses encounters they
may have with uh with better health consumers they're also written by autobiography yeah that starts to happen this is right my journey i shouldn't have died but lived here and i tell the story of my journey to wellness and hopefully hopefully uh other people are finding invaluability i mean it is it's a i'm very proud of it and i'm uh so i'm in general is there anything else you'd like to add to your wonderful story thank you um yeah i think when i had the when i took my great leap forward in 2000 as a result of my medication change i think it's significant that
my doctor told me that would only work if i had a positive attitude and so i took his advice so hard and and um i i've been able to achieve really veritable renaissance wonders compared to what i was before and i i think it's a a my uh my renaissance is truly a a testimony that positive thinking and treatment work that that that if people can get a full can't afford the new medications um unfortunately um a lot of patients cannot afford the medications and so it's too bad that the mental health medications and services in general are lacking indeed the so-called great state of
texas currently ranks 50th in the nation in spending on mental health services this is truly shameful surely we can do better so hopefully our friends have advocated before the legislators hope they'll hopefully they'll grant a significant increase in in funding so that that everybody can better tonight and society's home she said i've been offended and so i hope to um also i want to mention that for about 10 years i had a significant other queen janine hayes she she was wonderful she she was a she was like i'm in a mentor too she was a real dynamic in the in the consumer community and she
passed on now a year ago unfortunately but she would she was an inspiration and we all loved her she all everybody adored her and i daughter she i think she loved me as well and so i'm very thankful for that that and um i'm very happy that i'm able to have come out the other side um i think uh um i conclude by uh quoting what i wrote in the plan of music is that we mental health consumers likewise and no terror we are veterans of many many hard-fought battles fought in the crucible of middle orders we become creators pioneers and leaders in our own
right it is possible in the face of appreciating pain and suffering we voice hear our hope faith yearning for peace above all our love for life may we by our example inspire others to choose life in all of them to us our spirit is truly testimonies the human spirit we shall not really survive we shall prevail our best and yet become thank you thank you thank you chip for that wonderful interview was it okay