Debbie Shulkin
Debbie Shulkin's roots in Dallas run deep. Both of her grandmothers were born in Dallas right after the turn of the century, and her mother's father came from Russia as a young immigrant, arriving as a teenager and later moving to Dallas from Minneapolis because he disliked the harsh winters. Her father's parents ran a successful wholesale grocery with dry goods, produce, and a meat market in the Cedars neighborhood, while her mother's father was a tailor. Her parents met as children, family friends before either was born, and married in 1953 after her father finished his service in the Air Force following Korea. Debbie grew up with an older brother, an older sister, and a younger brother.
Debbie was raised behind Shearith Israel, where her family has been members for more than a century and where both her parents served in leadership of the Brotherhood and Sisterhood. She attended Akiba Academy from nursery through ninth grade, then Lake Hill School in East Dallas. Much of her childhood centered on the Jewish Community Center, from tennis lessons and arts and crafts to basketball from fourth through ninth grade. She studied at UT before transferring to Texas Woman's University for nursing, training extensively at Parkland Hospital, where she built her clinical skills.
Debbie began her nursing career at Baylor as an ICU intern and worked as a surgical trauma ICU nurse before earning critical care certification. She then spent nine years working for the infectious diseases chief, training as a vascular access nurse, an expertise that shaped the last 25 years of her career. She met her husband Randy, a clinical pharmacist from Denver, and they married ten months later, eventually settling in Plano and both working at Medical Center of Plano. She is stepmother to Randy's daughter Erin, who embraced Judaism, and grandmother to Tessa and Sophie in Sugar Land. A member of the Chevra Kadisha and proud of her role as a Jewish nurse and patient advocate, she has joined the board of the Dallas Jewish Historical Society and become more civically active.
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today is Tuesday July 17 2018 I'm Joe Reinbold I'm interviewing Debbie Shulkin good morning Debbie hi there tell us a little bit about what you know about your family your grandparents your parents where they lived where they came from and how they got here well if my grandparents were born in America my mother's father was born in Minneapolis st. Paul and both my grandmother's were born here in Dallas Texas right after the turn of the century and my grandfather was born in a town called well they can pull it up right now but in in Russia or in a present-day Russia and he was the oldest son and his family came over in the late 1800s and early 1900s and I believe he came here as a 13 year old and I was naturalized as a 17 mm very good so how did that set of grandparents meet do you know Libya Navy ships met here in Dallas and I believe they married in 1920s it's and
my grandfather from Minneapolis I came here because he didn't like the heavy winters and he met Marguerite and her name is Marguerite Chris and her family had been here also since the turn of the century very good what type of work do they do as adults as adults my my father's parents had a host cell grocery and it moved a few times but its final place was on the Morris Street in downtown Dallas and what called The Cedars neighborhood and they were very successful dry goods produce and a meat market it was pre Sam's and days and so they were very successful my mother's parents
my grandfather was a tailor and my grandmother Marguerite was a Salesman Wow who does she work for just on her own I don't know I don't know but mostly she was busy raising a family right and they lived in South Dallas at the time well everybody was in South Dallas because there was I think North Dallas stopped at Lovers Lane and grandma Shep's his sister she and her husband moved all the way to Lakehurst off of Preston Road Northwest Highway and that was heresy nobody lived out there and so they were one of the first people the shack moons to move that foreign norm but
eventually everybody did but they did all start out there and my grandfather and grandmother had a house on Atlanta and South Boulevard and what about your parents my parents met as children fun fact that even though the kid when Libya named and Marguerite and Max were friends before they had children and Marguerite or Libby's headpiece for her own wedding and not knowing that their own children would get married many years later so my mother fell in love with my father as a nine year old my dad was 12 and from what my mother's friends tell me she always knew that they were gonna get married
and they did my mother was a 18 years old and my dad had just finished his stint in the Air Force right after Korea so they got married in 1953 what was life like for them as a young couple well I think they had a one-room apartment and my father worked full-time seven days a week for his parents and my mother soon had a baby 4:19 birthday and she was a full-time housewife and mother and little by little they moved a little more north from Mockingbird and central to Boca Raton and Preston and then to the home where we were raised behind Terra to parrot
Israel so how did your immediate family grow my immediate family grew well I have an older brother and he's 63 my sister is 61 this year I'm 56 as a westweek and my younger brother is 52 and there was no Akiba at the time that we were all young but once Akiva got off the ground my parents and my younger brother and me starting in nursery so so besides Akiva what other Jewish affiliations did your family have back then growing up well my family has as of this coming year been members of Sherrod Israel for over a hundred years and so we were raised to
share the Israel my I didn't go to Sunday school or Wednesday afternoon school because I went to Akiva but we went to Charlotte showed us every Saturday night again we went to Friday night services also I remember being a kid falling asleep and my mother's stole but both my parents were president of the Brotherhood and my mother was president of the sisterhood my father was president of the North Dallas Chamber of Commerce and my mother was active and chair of the Israel did they have other any other civic or Jewish affiliations that you know of my mother was a member of the Eastern Star and
that's all I remember from her my father was very involved he was a member of macabre khadisha and he used to like to come home and tell us where he'd been it worked because today I'm a member of the cover Khadija as well that's quite a mitzvah thank you yes we we spend a lot of time at the Jewish Community Center a lot from tennis lessons as a kid to every Sunday afternoon when it was quiet time in the house for my father who basically worked every day he took Sunday afternoons off and my little brother and I were here at the JCC doing all
sorts of arts and crafts and writing classes I play basketball from the fourth grade through the ninth grade and we practice during the week and we played on Sundays so I would say we were pretty involved here what other memorable activities did you have in school especially high school i well once I graduated from Kiba and that was at the end of ninth grade I went to a school called Lake Hill over in East Dallas it was a private school and I made a lot of friends there but once I was done with the Kiba I had to start going to Sunday school in the
mornings and I also had friends there and a lot of those friends from grade school I've had for years but I was not I did BBG maybe just for a year was not at the four of my activities and that that's that's pretty much you know we participated in the J and I babysat a lot okay what about caught your college years college years everyone belong to who L and where did you go I started out at UT and when I decided to go to nursing school I switched into Texas Woman's University I like that program better and I went to school on the Parkland
and pres dear on campus this is so they had they had a great obviously they had a graduate program there or well they did have a graduate program but this was my undergraduate and we we spend a lot of time in Portland I also worked on the weekends at Portland to get extra not extra credit but extra clinical time and back in the day when no one cared you could do anything in the Parkland emergency room as long as you had a nurse that trusted you and I really built a lot of my skills Department I loved it so expand for us your nursing career
well my nursing career began at Baylor downtown and when I was hired to be an intern which is a six-month program in the ICU and when I completed that I worked full-time as a surgical trauma ICU nurse and that was a wonderful experience and we saw a lot of sad things but we've learned a lot and how to help people and I really bonded with a lot of those patients I really felt I've always felt been nursing that I'm really helping people who cannot help themselves at any given time and that it's up to us to bridge that and until they are strong enough to
go home and and they were fend for themselves or a family member take care of them I while after I I expanded my my knowledge base I received critical care certification which was a little bit of a process but I did get my certificate in critical care and and then I ended up leafing critical care and staying at Baylor to work for the infectious diseases chief Williams up curtains and I spent nine years at his knee learning everything that he could teach me and taking care of his patients and he had me go to be trained as an vascular access nurse so that we could
put pit mines in and under patients in the office and then that's where my expertise took me and that is how I spent the last 25 years of my career fantastic now where along the line did you meet your husband tell us about that I met my husband while I was still at Baylor my husband is a clinical pharmacist but he moved here in December of 98 from Denver Colorado his sister and my sisters children went to Solomon chefs go together so my sister has a sister and his sister had a brother and they fixed us up and we got married 10 months later yeah
very good wonderful did he did you both stay at that point at you were both at Baylor I stayed downtown at Baylor one year but we moved to Plano and the drive back and forth big change you know central used to be very wonderful and then it went under construction for many many years and as a newlywed I didn't want to take two extra hours out of my day traveling up and down central so I took a few months off and just accidentally fell into an IV nurse job three miles from my house so I ended up that Medical Center of Plano and my husband
got a job there as well oh is that where he is today still still today still there okay very so tell us about your family you and your husband's family how did that grow my husband has a daughter from his previous marriage his wife passed away when they were 40 and I met his daughter as a 19 year old freshman at SMU and she I got her to join Hallel at SMU and eventually she decided she would go on the birthright Israel trip and from there she decided she loved Judaism too and she ended up marrying a wonderful man from a long time Jewish family
from Houston and I now am the grandmother to my fabulous two grandchildren eight-year-old Sophie and ten-year-old Tessa wonderful and they found the Holy Bible in our hotel room last weekend and Tessa opened it up to the one page that had Hebrew and showed me how she could read it of course they go to Wednesday afternoon and Sunday mornings and and then I teach them a little bit you know went on with them and they just are sponges they they love they love going to Sheol and they go to family nines they belong to a temple in Sugar Land Texas so how often do you get
to see them well because I retired a couple of years ago I am I'm down there at least once a month they'll be here a week from Sunday to spend a week I see them probably eight to ten times a year and agree we have a very close relationship wonderful does your daughter have a job down there she is honored they guess her name is Erin and she is the bookkeeper accountant for the soul what Shirley yes okay yes initially she worked for shale oil as did her grandfather from there as a geologist but she decided to be a stay-at-home mom ten years ago so
she did and she just went back to work last year very good wonderful so you and Randy are are you guys involved in anything obviously share with Israel but anything else beside sheriff honestly the last few years we we have not been and I have just joined the board of the down Jewish Historical Society yay and I am ready to come back into the community I'm ready to get out there and do what I can to help promote Judaism I'm a little afraid of what's going on in this country right now so I'm becoming more active in the Democratic Party and devoting time to making
sure that democracy stays in our country since you are a native tell us from your perspective how has Dallas grown and changed what have you seen Dallas is underground tremendous tremendous change and I feel like I've stepped into my mother's shoes where she would tell me how have it changed from when she was a little girl in South Dallas and now I say the explosion of synagogues at the time that I you know there were four synagogues probably now there's over 20 and the influx of the Hasidic community the Lubavitch community which we only only had one Lubavitch family the al provinces that taught at
Akiva beloved I love them very much and there were no kosher restaurants the JCC was much smaller its undergone expansion two or three times and is enormous from the days where they would just drop us off at the pool and the summers and we had our little camp high here on site I will say that I did spend one summer after we got married as the three-week nurse at camp high out in Louisville which was an amazing experience while the health campers were super hot I was super old in my little my little camper I just I see the Jewish community growing at a very
rapid pace it's an easy lifestyle here and [Music] the kids have so much more opportunity and of course Akiba at our original site is gone and it together with the high school behind gates now which I am sad to say is every way reality it's reality and I never once in my life growing up here felt any kind of anti-semitism and my my father's employees were black and Hispanic and it was in traditionally southern African American neighborhood and we commingled they were our friends we went to their weddings and children's weddings and never once did I I feel different and now I just think you
know coming and finding swastikas and things that just didn't exist and I really don't know what is being done about it I'm hoping something's being done but I'm hoping that by coming back to the JCC I can join groups that are looking to educate people very good think about if you can give an example of something that you are the most proud of I know that's a broad statement but can you think of something that truly you're very proud of I'm proud of the contribution that I made to the Jewish community as a nurse out in the community there are not a lot of Jewish
nurses and I I'm in I'm like an ambassador you know and in the hospitals I mainly was at Baylor which was very Baptist and I was I was different and they knew and I educated them and I had the basis of talking about my religion because I'd spent so many years at Akiba being educated about what Judaism is and what it's not and I think I brought a little bit of more openness my friends nobody you know dropped me because they found out I was Jewish so I had Christian friends and I had Jewish friends and that I really am proud of my nursing contribution
and my skill as a venous access nurse and trying to reduce some of the pain of associated with needles and educating friends and family members who call me all the time to to ask so I've been a very big advocate for my family and friends in helping them get through the ins and outs of the medical establishment it has become very complicated mm-hmm along that line do you have anybody in your field that you could say you could point to and say was a role model for you well I've had several role models in my in my lifetime of course my parents but I have
two very close friends one was a neighbor and one was my brothers former girlfriend and both of them really helped me grow up and understand who I was and then in the medical field my boss William Sutter was my mentor and I I learned everything that I was able to learn that he was willing to teach and we had just an excellent working relationship and I take from him what I learned and I try to put it out in the community that's what I felt Debbie do you have anything else that you'd like to add I would like to add that when I share my
memories of growing up here down the street from the Jewish Community Center with my husband who didn't have those privileges growing up in Denver and I didn't realize that they were privileges growing up it was just a part of who we were and what we did and now I realize it was the utmost privilege to be a part of the Jewish community where everyone knew one another and where we didn't have to play Jewish geography because everybody knew who was who and as it turns out I just like to say that that our daughter ended up marrying a man in Houston that my first cousin
Sarah Ellen babysat for him when he was a child and that my mother's brother worked for my son in law's father's father it so it all comes around being you know the just the Dallas Jewish historical perspective is important here I have my in law's is from Houston and I think it's they're both strong communities and I have the it continues thank you very much it's been wonderful appreciate it you