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my my name is de ville de RV al Bernice BR in RC e Kishen Belle que IR is hu ba um and but today's October the 27th to stay my great daughter Stephanie and okay tell us where was your family from originally and how did they get to South Africa if you remember I do my side of the family the treatments which was my maiden name or born in South Africa my husband the Kirschenbaum that I am now his family came from Poland in fact his mother was hidden during the war and then she got out and six of her sisters perished but you make
love now husband's father and they were very very happy together and they then built a family in South Africa but I personally had fun with from three sisters and my husband's from two sisters and two boys make ahead uh what you gonna ask me no well tell us a little bit about your own life growing up in South Africa what was important and memorable to you well it was very memorable we live just opposite from the beach we can we were brought up in the Strand which is about 30 miles from Cape Town proper it's not one of the suburbs but and my father and
his brother opened a huge departmental store which at that time was called Friedman and colon and they don't at about eight nine years old I developed asthma but quite directly and it was suggested to my parents that I needed to be part of our drier climate so my mom's brother was sure in Johannesburg near Johannesburg so I came across and his daughter was at the school called Red Hill which are sucked subsequently went to us they threw out excuse me throughout my school days and then was going to do nursery school teaching and in fact I I was due to start and that time I
was going out with my husband he didn't want me to go is going on us which is a university overseas where was it where was the university I bet you said it was overseas yes and my husband to Antony if don't know one night we said well if you go I may not be here when around when you come back so that fragment because I was sorry enough and I guess that was his way hmm and he proposed to be there and they and how old were you both at that time he was nine years older than me he's 28 I was 19 um we
had three beautiful sons together I came the oldest one did his undergrad at foots University undergrad was old he's become uh he was a very bright kid so I used to take him to court to watch different cases to kind of get a feeling way which way he wanted to go he wound up being an attorney and that son and his wife and three grandchildren his wife he met at law school that US attorneys but she doesn't practice as an attorney she does makeup strange but true she does it for bridesmaids and all kinds of hot person do you name it and they've got three
beautiful children my once came to Washington the semester she's going to Washington University she's going to do languages I incidentally speak five languages so my older sisters speak seven any other two kids mark Joel was the one that stayed behind in South Africa to look off to the businesses with his prison part that he now brought over but he missed the family so badly that within a year we brought them across and sold out in South Africa and he's got three gorgeous kids the youngest Ashura she goes to Lavine mm-hmm Academy in fact I ordered Nikita is the oldest and she's now at nursing school
she had a very bad accident she loved horses and at the age of eight she would go and feed the horses so it wasn't the horses fault but be that as it may then she had a crush on this little baby fall and she was feeding it used to take it carrots and Spanish and God knows what and the mother horse came forward and he just tempted to say I'm here as well give me some that it overlapped the whole back of her neck and we nearly lost her they airlifted her oh gosh it was horrific but too long a story to tell she today
is in nursing school she's got a boyfriend and she's full of love she comes here she touched my hand she paints my - and come sometimes a day she heard now yeah yeah he's also here okay and the middle one is Jason or sir at Solomon Schechter but left at the end of the loss semester because they had moved to Frisco and the drive was just new to him and they found out about the schools in Frisco and they they felt they were very good at their mmm Charice my my little girl all into fashion and dancing in being a real Jewish girl and then
there is Gary and Alan hmm we used to own the store called on seat which was on Preston Road it was a very well known store yeah and we just had a bad luck landlord we begged him for you for 20 years my husband begged him we wanted to buy the property he would never sell it Mitchell rozanski isn't the easiest guy to get through to but be that as it may we had to move out okay I want to stop you for a second I want you to go back a little bit go back in time and tell us how did you make a
decision to leave South Africa and how did you decide on Dallas okay driving to work one day to the bank one day my my youngest son was held up at gunpoint and immediately my husband said we get out of here before something happens better that we won't be able to get over and that was it we had us where we had 13 stores we used to travel a lot to America to get the fashion Europe because the black South Africans they love the American fashion you know the way the Negroes rested and their husband subsequently she had a factory with a good friend of ours
in the country and started manufacturing me for the store so we would come to America Lots because the factory produced the boxer shorts or t-shirts whatever and we landed up a 13 stores fed and from then on we worked towards coming to America because we my son did his undergrad and foot's University we knew that if we only had a South African background to law he wasn't gonna be acceptable anyway should we move so we sent him to Boston University where he met his lawyer worth yep and that's so he came first he came first yes all right and then when hours leaving my husband
stayed back he had a thing in his head that someone would attack me so I left with my youngest son Gary and he was also getting very steady with a girl Lynn Isaacs so she came as well so we we we literally immigrated but with everybody I think we were 11 of us we removed dunno two four six seven eight yeah I brought my sister as well and at my younger sister and she moved directly with me and Gary Allen moved directly with me and zip followed about six months later and we opened this business on Preston Road so how did you picked Alice we
picked I did you know of it or monetary head yeah we picked Dallas because my older sister lúcia and when did she come she preceded you by how many bush but about city thirty Wow okay go ahead uh what you lost me no well tell us a little bit about your own life growing up in South Africa what was important and memorable to you well it was very memorable um we live just opposite from the beach we came we were brought up in the Strand which is about 30 miles from Cape Town proper it's at one of the suburbs but and my father and his
brother opened a huge departmental store which at that time was called Friedman and colon and they don't at about eight nine years old I developed asthma but quiet baby and it was suggested to my parents that I needed to be part of our drier climate so my mom's brother was sure in Johannesburg near Hill which are subsequently went to us they threw out oversea um where was it where was the university um people said it was overseas yes and my husband turned out to me it don't know why not we said well if you go I may not be hearing around when you come back
so they're frightened because I was sorry enough and I guess that was his way hmm and he proposed to me and how old were you both at that time he was nine years older than me he's 28 I was 19 um we had three beautiful sons together I cannot oldest one did his undergrad at foots University the undergrad was called he's become uh he was a very of get a feeling win which way he wanted Washington you knew she's going to do languages I incidentally speak five languages so my older sister speaks seven in your other two kids man Joel was the one that stayed
behind in South Africa to look after the businesses with his prison part that he now brought over but he missed the family so badly that within a year we brought them across and sold out in South Africa and he's got three gorgeous kids the youngest Ashura she goes to Lavigne mm-hmm Academy in fact I ordered an Nikita it's the oldest and she's now at nursing school she had a very bad accident she loved horses and at the age of eight she would go and feed the horses so it wasn't the horses fault but be the doesn't make them she had a crush on this little
baby fall and she was feeding it used to take it carrots and suspension God knows what and the mother horse came forward and he just tempted to say I'm here as well give me some that it opened up behold back of her neck and we nearly lost her they airlifted her oh gosh it was horrific but too long a story to tell she today is in nursing school she's got a boyfriend and she's full of love she comes here she touched my hair she paints my talent come sometimes a day she heard now yeah yeah he's also here okay and the middle one is Jason
also at Solomon Schechter but lift at the end of the los semester because they'd moved to Frisco and the drive was just too hilly and they found out about the schools in Frisco and they they felt they were very good at their Cherise my my little girl all into fashion and dancing in being a real Jewish cook and then there is Gary and Alan hmm we used to own the store called on seat never sell it mature rozanski isn't the easiest guy to get through to but be decide on Dallas okay driving to work one day to the bank one day my my youngest son
was held up at gunpoint and immediately my husband said be getting out of here before something happens that uh that we won't be able to get over and that was that we had us where we had 13 stores we used to travel a lot to America to get the fashion here loved the American fashion you know the way the Negroes rested and that has been started manufacturing men for the store son did his undergrad and its university we knew that if we only had a South African background to law he wasn't gonna be acceptable anyway should we move so we sent him to Boston University
where he met his lawyer wants Mia and that's so he came first he came first yes right and then when our levy management stayed back he had a fear in his head but someone would attack me so I left with my youngest son Gary and he was also gay steady with a girl Lynn Isaac's so she came as well so we we we literally emigrated but with everybody I think we were 11 of us we relieved Donna 2 4 6 7 8 yeah I brought my sister as well and at my younger sister and she moved directly with me and Gary Allen moved directly with
me and said followed about 6 months later and we opened this business on Preston Road so how did you pick towers we picked dated you know of it or want ot head yeah we picked Dennis because my older sister loves ya and when did she come she preceded you by how many gosh but about 50 30 Wow okay you