George Tobolowsky
George Tobolowsky comes from a large family with immigrant roots. He recalls that his father's side, headed by his grandfather Ruth (Rube) Tobolowsky, left Poland in the 1880s, with Rube said to have been born in Sweden before the family came to the United States and settled in Dallas, sponsored by relatives already there. Both sets of grandparents worked in the millinery business making cowboy hats and women's hats. His mother, whom the family affectionately called Josephine, was a registered nurse and artist who trained at the Jewish Hospital in St. Louis, met his father during wartime, and later earned additional college degrees and worked as a substitute teacher in DISD.
Growing up in Dallas, George and his siblings were kept constantly busy to stay out of trouble. They collected stamps and coins, sold roses at grocery stores, and learned photography in a home darkroom. His father, an electrical engineer who had worked on radar for battleships and later ran a textile business, acquired land north of Dallas in 1962. The family celebrated Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Passover in the country, later hosting Thanksgivings of up to 150 relatives. George studied accounting at SMU, where he was president of the business school, and pursued law, including an LLM in taxation at NYU.
After roughly three decades in business, including Blockbuster Video and other franchises, George returned to art full-time in 2004 with the encouragement of his teacher and mentor, sculptor James Surls. A found-object sculptor who gathers metal from Dallas scrap yards, he creates sculptures, menorahs, and sustainable flower pieces, exhibiting in venues from India to the Venice Biennale and the Jerusalem Biennale. He serves on numerous nonprofit boards, has volunteered with major arts institutions, and once helped install a Louise Nevelson exhibition. He and his wife Julie raised their children, and he takes pride in his family's lasting good name and civic contributions.
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this is the oral history of he taken by Macy before the Dallas society on March 20th 2018 hi George thank you for having us in your lovely home you're welcome we'd like to go back as far as we can what what do you know about your family's early history well I can remember my grandfather of course my father and a little bit from my mother's side they both grandparents or in the millinery business they were both making hats they made cowboy hats and women's hats but on different parts of the country and then they ended up both in Dallas my mother was a registered nurse
and an artist and met my father during wartime because one important thing during wartime was that she could get gasoline as a registered nurse in public health nurse so they had gasoline to go on dates so his father Jack Tobolowsky father Ruth Tobolowsky the story I I remember they left Poland in about 1880s I believe he was born in Sweden across across the way they were there a few years and then came to the States that side of the family it must have been pretty rough times back there I think Ruth became American when he was two or three years old and they ended up
and down the samne they were sponsored by Tobolowsky in Dallas and rube todd watski married editable ASCII part of the side of the family that was sponsoring them so that's as much as I know about them they had a rube had a brother who lived in Hubbard Texas and ran the general store there and we knew Santa Polaski quite well because my father when Sam got ill and passed away my father ran that store cupboard Texas for many years and then he also was in the textile business with I think with my grandfather read for a while and then ran a wolf textile and where's
your mother fun she was I believe born in Atlanta and lived in st. Louis and got her cap her registered nursing cap at the Jewish Hospital in st. Louis so I think she always claimed to be from st. Louis or the southeast and then just kind of went out on her own her her mother was an orphan you'll have to check with my my sister my room knows all the history but and they grew Jean grew up in my grandmother I grew up in New York City I think in an orphan and then married a permit and then they were in st. Louis and came down here she came down here I think on a train because she got as a nurse she got a job down here this was during wartime okay and so she was a nurse and did she continue that profession yes I'm the noise in if she was a public health nurse that would go out they gave her Carter and wartime get went out and gave shots vaccinations all during the wartime and up in the 50s I think she continued nursing and even raising four kids she still enjoyed very much working so she was nursing in different hospitals on and off then back in
the 60s she decided well nursing I think back then you didn't get a BS degree or anything like that or ba so she went back and took the bus every day to the North Texas State back down and got timís either English and chemistry degree some you know some tough degrees well while I was in high school in college she was in college getting her finishing up her degrees that's several degrees out there so she enjoyed education and nursing now after nursing she became a substitute teacher and would teach you the D ISD schools up to which she was ladies I think our teacher just
a substitute you know she would win whatever class they wanted her to teach so she was very energetic go-getter she was always drawing on as an artist grow black what kind of art did she concentrate on Mickey Mouse she loved drawing Mickey Mouse and making cutouts I would cut out Mickey Mouse silhouettes that she would color in the coffee and give them out as a presents for 10 20 years different different people but it was mostly then she bet back in college she was doing some etchings and drawings and paintings photography we had a black we have a dark room in our house so we
did when we were growing up by her and I we did photography back in the early 60s developing our own films and doing that kind of stuff so we were always busy they kept us busy because if not we would be in trouble we were busy or the are in trouble or both so we stamp collected stamps with collected coins our Father would buy $50 worth of pennies and then they would go out to dinner on the weekends when we sat there and sort through pennies and put them based on dates and we knew all the important valuable pennies and quarters and dimes and so
if big collections of that we had Israeli stamp collections we had work called plate block collections stamps so we might collected things but we always worked our own I always worked throughout growing up we sold roses fresh towel roses for six years and from the different grocery stores when we were 12 and 14 so we did a lot of we just they kept us busy otherwise we'd get in trouble what do you recall about the spending holidays and special events with your family well we had think Thanksgivings whether back in 1962 my father who was also an electrical engineer and worked it in Guantanamo Bay
putting putting radar on battleships for World War two so when the Russians started going into Cuba in 62 he went out and acquired some land north of Dallas so we could build a bomb shelter and get out of the city we had to get out of the city so we acquired some property 55 acres of their pilot point and so we would up there always working on that building fences it's about your holiday spending holidays so we built a house up there or renovated a house and we would have Thanksgiving and Christmas up in the country we continued that when that property my father was
acquired by Lake Ray Roberts I went out and bought some land north of there about three miles north of there Julie and I built a house on it and then we had Thanksgivings up there for it grew up to about 150 people every Thanksgiving and we would have and the kids loved it they had to go kart racing maybe the all the kids I mean anybody like kids would always come up there so it was a joint effort between Myra IRA and myself our families would throw and then the girls worked too hard Myra and Julie and Debbie worked you know just worked because we
have to feed 150 wealthy people so that's what we did and we still have holidays Passover's we always had big Passover's this year we'll have Passover and out of the room in there for 45 people and other holidays it was very interesting growing up my father was in the textile business so every Sunday he would invite people over because he had to try out the new linens that he was trying to sell the hotels motels and hospitals so chose me my mother we always called her Josephine jack'd and so Josephine would cook all this stuff up we would have a big big brunch and then
we would have a food because he wanted us to throw food and smear it all over everything and then my mother would wash it up and we'd see if it works so we we have people come over just to watch us eat on Sunday you can ask they're so the small families with a new steward they've all come over and watch us even just painting the food fights so it was organized so we did a lot of holidays and we still do a lot of this kind of thinking I'd like to have grown up in your family what do you feel the impact your family
has been on this community both the general community and the Jewish community well the families I would say it's pretty large it's enormous in getting ready for this my sister brought over the family tree that I had no idea was that big so when you look at a family tree like that you expect it to be scattered around the country but most of these people stayed in Dallas and we did not really commingle with so many sides but we knew we were all related so there's so many of us didn't make sense to party together it's just too big of a party so ever so
often we would get up with other members of the family and just meet and greet Paul and Stephen Tobolowsky Stephen was at SNU with me acting he was acting all was in medical school I was in lost I was over the business school so what impact it we have a lot of the early you know the phrase I state first generations we're all lawyers or doctors and then the next generation kinda kicked in as lawyers and doctors and businessmen and so business women so active we had a big impact in Dallas in terms of just the amount of professionals we have here and you know
you have the your reputation your name and the name has always been a good name you know it's not likely for bad things said about table velocities are all the components of velocities and as as professionals I think the big adults as they got older over the community service only sat on the boards always were involved in Jewish and non-jewish organizations actually I sit on nine nonprofit boards right now tell us what those some work those Museum of Art for [Music] in Dallas I'm treasurer of that president of the National Center for Jewish art which is in the here in Dallas I'm involved with the
paid Zell foundation the MB and Edna Foundation I just cycled off for the library Congress board in DC and where I was chairman of the map division there for 10 or 15 years other course you know I just have to think about I know several smaller boards the Texas sculpture association board think that cycled off to Texas Jewish Artists Association Board there's a few more boards probably important ones I forget about how long have you been doing your sculptures the other board on the treasurer of the international sculpture of Sochi pesticide the International sculpture center that's a collection of about 8,000 sculptures from around the
world and I'm the treasurer I forgot about that I just had a fun board meeting today sculpture and SMU in 1969 and that's in you I was actually president of the business school that's in you I was an accounting major and back then there was not many females in the department so I went over the art school to meet some dates and that was a summer 69 that whole first part of the summer 69 martial punk and I spent all summer in Israel working on cabooses indeed I'm digging archaeological digging at Masada the way to go so we came back in 69 we miss the
moon landing we missed the Woodstock and we got it back and this and you just hired this pretty wild-looking artist named James Searles James Searles is now one of America's greatest sculptures but he was my teacher and mentor and James and James and I've been fast friends for 45 oh you know 47 years basically I was his lawyer after I graduated law school that's in you but I was making art when I was at SMU undergraduate and gray in law school so so and then I was James's attorney advisor and when I did about three three decades of the business then had the encouragement of
changed about in 2004 he said okay you can you can go back and art and so I started making some pieces and he said these these are good and started giving exhibitions so I actually graduated SNU with an accounting us sculpting for the brain is on tonight so in 2004 I went back into art we we had Blockbuster Video franchises I was really good businessman we owned blockbuster franchise so in all the businesses I was involved in father full-time in in 2004 where I was actually we still owned 75 Buster stores we owned some Palm Beach tan stores then a few years later we started
loose I signed up to hundred Dunkin Donuts doors of which Dunkin donut was not successful in this area so as we were winding down those ice kept making art and I kept getting exhibitions and started getting representation by galleries which was great you know and I started selling selling art which was always helpful and I studied with back actually back into the early 70s I studied with James Earl's who was what you would call a found object sculpture he mostly one of the woodsman picked up wood and put it together into really spiritual pieces and then I had studied with very briefly with Louise Nevelson
who one of America's greatest sculptors I got to put an exhibition of hers together physically put a show together for the Dallas Museum of Art I volunteered to because I knew how to run a screw gun I could unscrew the boxes I put her big wall units together then I was her escort for it and then I knew her in New York because after law school I went up to NYU and was on the LLM program up there in taxation so I studied with some great artists and learned quite a few important aspects of a found object part and that's what I do I'm a
found object sculpture I go to scrap yards and junkyards and enforcement of that we've got some great fabrication plants and scrap yards here in Dallas that were all run by Jewish families the years and I always said I was the only Jew to go into a scrap yard and a pickup truck and come out full so I really have to pick up to the four thousand pounds of metal every other week and sort through it and build stuff and collect stuff I probably have at my studio which is an hour north to here probably a hundred tons of found objects and so I enjoy putting
things together and building things and fortunate enough they I get a lot of shows and a lot of exhibitions do you represent yourself or you have a nature I have had agents I deal with agents when they come in I do not have any gallery representation for the last seven years or so because I mostly sell to museums and and then the private collector estate I call ten to 20,000 pounds of art to an exhibition four or five times a year I have twelve exhibitions this year it's just crazy but I've got as a found object sculptor I'm able it's a little different than someone
who goes in in cast a big sculpture piece that can take half a year I make close to as an average fourteen pieces a year I give ten on your way to charitable events and and just because people want them and auction them off and I use that I consider that marketing then I get all these exhibitions because if I sell 10 to 12 pieces a year pretty good so now I have another 10 to 12 or more pieces that I accumulate and I put in shows this year I'm moving around a hundred thirty three sculpture pieces to twelve different exhibitions I just shipped off
two major pieces to the Venice Biennale so I've been in shows in India I spent two weeks in Jerusalem for the Jerusalem bein Ali in October so these are just great events resume builders and just nice to meet people when you get more shows how many hours a week do you work on your homework I leave my house here at 6:45 every morning at least five days a week to go to my studio because it's reverse community so then I leave the studio based on the weather usually around one third or so come back and then I can go directly to a scrap yard or
fabrication plant and then I'm through through about a fourth of the day and I do that at least four days a week and if I'm not doing or traveling something before four days going yeah or and then I work some days up there because it's nice and quiet but I do all my paperwork I do I arrange all my exhibitions also one of my really great things that I've built down or menorahs and Hanukkah Lenore's and I've been fortunate enough to install those my first major museum I installed beautiful menorah called the Sea of Galilee menorah at the maknae Museum in San Antonio just last
week because they called me up they said look we were founded by Roman Catholic people you know individuals we Jewish ceremony or would you loan this one and I've loaned them a big reward those loans usually turn into either acquisitions or yes so I'm joined making these mentors and that's what i schlepped israel was probably only about 2,000 pounds of menorah or the beer now that's the way then I started making these flower pieces behind me because near my studio is the Texas tulip farm and this to look farm if you never seen it you need to go see it these people from Netherlands came
here many years ago and then invented tulip the farming in Texas well this farm is called sustainable flower farming this is where you pick to own you know confirm the market food I have studio the market art so I created a whole series of sustainable flowers and I call them that because you buy them you know what the water you don't feed them to replant and so these this is what got me into the venice biennale is this sustainable flowers and the ones I shipped or just are painted and really really beautiful pieces they're only that each one weighs 515 pounds so I just shipped
those off last week so you come up and try to be creative so I went from I still make found object Manorama Knorr sustainable flowers and then my other art pieces that way anywhere from 10 pounds to that as an average 7,000 pounds so yeah they can they can get up there so that that's the article what would you like your personal legacy to be as you think about what you want to leave through your children and grandchildren the oldest two are girls yeah your kids that was about your kids my legacy of my family like Todd velocities around town marry an incredible lady Julie
I say we raise four kids she raised five and the two oldest daughters Catherine and Laura both went to really good schools and became third-grade teachers in the different different worlds one went to Colgate talked at Trinity in New York City and drainage Country Day and then the other what to do Laura went to Duke and did Teach for America teaching in an all-black school in the Indian over the city so 30 different worlds but I said to myself girls go to law school and so both of them went back and went to lost when both of her lawyers but they're both married and two
kids each so so we've got four grandchildren two boys Adam and Robert Adam is a racecar driver and he he works in the auto industry Joey's been a mechanic breaking down cars and rebuilding them his whole life so he's a race car driver that if he's not going 180 miles an hour he's not very happy but he he teaches people how to race cars how you know these people that buy all these expensive hot rods and hot cars you'll train them how to drive a successful me my other son Robert lives in LA and he's a founder company with the college buddy and he creates
music concerts and represents bands and musicians and he goes around the world doing music concerts so creative kids good kids and then of course Julie is just eight eight or nine years ago just after being a full-time mom and all of that she invented the world's smallest cookie with her with a girlfriend and she makes the microchip of cookies so she's been on Katie Kirk's show along with the shark tanks Bloomberg News and just last October got picked up by Amazon Prime they think it only they got picked up in October so they could only provide well maybe put them in your lab I'm putting
in my life here thank you so much it is yes in fact it was fabulous I've known Julie since the day she was born my brother and Donnie were best friends melting like nothing love passed away we just wanna