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this is March the 22nd I'm Pauline Rivera interviewing Harriette Meyer and Harriet is a native della site and has a very interesting history here and I wonder whether you could just tell us about it Harriette this is your time we're going to go for about the maximum of 45 minutes and the stage is yours I might ask you a question and they're so tell us what's your earliest memory of being in Dallas maybe start with as a little girl my first earliest memories really when I lived on Manette Street in East Dallas and there was a we came home one night and there was someone
that broken into our home and I remember our dining room was all messed up and that's really not the first thing I remember and then you said then that you moved to universe then we moved to University Park and centenary and I went to Highland Park High School where there are a few Jewish kids but not a whole lot so I'm like one one friend of mine but really wasn't friends that good of friends when she lived a block away but but I became better friends with gene Aaron's as we were older as adults did you go to Sunday school uh yeah for for a
while I was not firm uh-huh I went for a while and that the old was that the old temple that had this big South dealt with sound Dallas you know I'm a brick wall or something I waited for my parents to pick me up but that was on South Boulevard yeah mm-hmm and then you have continued as a member of Temple emanu-el yeah my parents were members of shared Israel for a little while and then went to Temple hmm so go on tell us some more of your memories and what was it like you're the classic person to give us an interview about what it
was like to grow up in reform in Dallas I have time I joined BBG and I think that's the first time I got really involved with a lot of Jewish people and I met a lifelong friend through that Tina loserman McKim and the Lutheran's are all from Dallas so but that's really just I enjoyed BBG going and but Tina was my main my friend guess that everyone else went to Hillcrest so I really wasn't didn't become really close friends with too many of them it said Tina and a couple of others but but no and in my neighborhood there was like a Jewish person Jewish
child on every so many blocks you know but I knew them all and I went to higher elementary and then on to the junior high went all through the Holland Park system and then afterwards I went to SMU for a year and a half and then I moved to LA for seven years or so and I came back home and immediately met Stuart my husband so we met at Temple actually after Yom Kippur services our mothers were talking to each other and we were just standing there kind of staring at each other and they didn't introduce us because he had been just a widow widower
for 8 10 months or so and if they had introduced to you probably wouldn't have been interested in yeah and then we started dating we have well we had one date and then I moved back to California for about three months and then I wanted to come back home again and then we started dating what what are you doing in California oh well I've worked in computer it's very early governor's okay and you mentioned that you were in retail sales and also a year and as after David our son was old enough I guess I started working at petit sophistica and then I worked at
Saks from 14 years till they closed we have a true professionals professional and very nice and I heard you mentioned a son David we have Debbie was from Stewart's first wife she died when Debbie was 7 years old huh and I married Stewart when she was 9 she so hadn't raised her yeah that's that's one thing I'm I'm proud of is that she she took to me so quickly and called me Mommy you know after all immediately after we got married so and then two years later we had David our son and she loved him and it's crazy about him that's for sure oh you
were very fortunate yeah and do either of them have children now yeah our daughter is married and lose about five minutes north of us which is nice and they have two children with a granddaughter who was just five minutes but just a couple months ago three months ago or so and our grandson is ten and then my son lives in play now and he's married but they don't have any children who are you lucky yes I have them both here that is wonderful well well tell me um you know when growing up in Highland Park is sort of special because Highland Park without so many
Jews did you ever face any kind of subtle anti-semitism or I don't remember any of that good good you know some people complain about it but I had a couple of very close girlfriends who weren't Jewish very fortunate too yeah and and so tell us what what is there about living in Dallas that has well it brought you back from California of course that might have been Stewart who brought you back but but surely you obviously have enjoyed being in Dallas and you know this is for the Dallas Jewish Historical Society you know so what tell us how you feel about it would would you
have ever wanted to live anywhere else and what - what - Dallas bring to you Dallas has just been my home I when I lived in LA I had fun uh-huh I worked and I had girlfriends and we did things and I enjoyed my time there about them eventually I just felt like it was time to come home so and I love Dallas I wouldn't want to move be anywhere else what about your parents how did they get to Dallas or were they natives to now my mother was was born in st. Louis and my father in Muskogee Oklahoma and they had a my my grandmother had a friend or something or someone of my grandmother in Dallas and a friend and they got my parents together so and that's how they met here my my grand parents from my mother's side were from Romania and then the from daddy's side was Lithuanian and how so Ruth came to Dallas well my parents my mother moved to Dallas when she was 13 from st.
Louis my grandfather had a job at Hagar hands Germany so that's what brought them to Dallas and then when my parents got married they were supposed to live in Muskogee and they lived there three months and my mother hated it I'm going home so he came with her so I guess it she she did not want to live in Muskogee slightly different from Dallas even back then in 1937 when they got married how did he begin did he like jealous or then yeah yeah he worked at Bert's shoe store downtown oh well sure and then he opened this if it's called the fun and magic
shop this on Elm Street oh I used to go there my dad owned that anybody had a date with in high school ooh oh ooh to that place and it's a magic shop that was an amazing play yeah yeah fine appeal he used to bring home jokes and play the pillows we would City add something you put on the TV the TV screen that made it look like it was cracked you know first person who went in there turning on oh I'll bet people who are going to watch this or all Collier say oh I remember that place yeah when how long did he have
that when did it finally closed Wow but was he had a good run there yeah it was right by the Palace Theater yes and Birds shoes is where all of us teenagers went to get our Santa shoes dyed to match our dresses oh that's amazing amazing so life went on for you did you have any siblings I have a sister six years older she lives in California okay well you are a fortunate woman to be able to have both of your children and your grandchildren here now and so how long have you and Stuart now been married you said 38 years and that was 19
seventy-eight said my my math is not so good yeah 1978 okay very good and are you working now no sax closed down and I decided to retire too well you've had some major back surgery and I don't blame me if I don't point for that so what kind of interests have you had tell us what you do do you go to two plays or yeah well we go to plays and musicals we love those and then we've gone to the temple g2g senior group and we go into highlights from Beth tore up so we like to do things with them aren't you lucky that you
have each other to make a book to be able to and I'm lucky cuz Stuart's a shop or he likes to go shopping not every man is I don't know of men and women who were not but he likes to help me pick out my clothes well I'm gonna ask him eventually about what his business is and all about did it have anything to do with clothes no oh okay well it will tell me it'll tell me you say let me see we still have a lot of time I know all the time with them but I want it I want to just ask you
a couple more questions and then we'll let Stuart have your extra time okay so do you have any words of advice for people who are coming into Dallas what you've been through a lot of drastic surgery so tell me what your philosophy is just my philosophy I'm not even sure it's just come in move to Dallas and find out your niche you know what what you like to do or where you want to be and it's just a nice life here I think how did you manage to get through two extremely drastic surgeries how did you manage what what was your secret well I had
help my sister was here for the first one the big surgery and then the Stewart worked then and this last one he he was my helper because he didn't it doesn't work anymore you know but what about you you know we're talking about a very painful situation and how did what what was going through her mind what Wow what did you learn about yourself I learned that I could withstand all that all the pain that I was going through between the first and second surgeries I could manage I did it so it wasn't easy it wasn't easy on Stewart but you man mm-hmm yeah were
you for that we have to you want to get through it yeah that's right it yeah that's why I could for you now Herta for you there are a lot of people who spend their time complaining I might have spent a little time I'm doing that too well a little so cuz there was a point where I thought oh it's never gonna get better but it did eventually just time this is what lots of people don't understand you know yeah it's an insult to your whole body yes yeah and so was there any input at all from the rabbis from the temple did you depend
on anything from the template since like you took some advantage of things there what type of programs would do you go to I know you you must go to all the musical events yeah we try to do volunteer for any now not anymore what what did you work with well I did but they're women not my years ago and Jewish Federation the women's women's division they have a present iteration yeah but that was just a few years ago I did that mm-hmm well it's sometimes it's time to yeah listen to your body yeah okay well this has been a terrific interview because we don't always
have made a born yeah and still living here mm-hmm I'm so glad that you were here if you think of anything else that you want to put on here then I'm going to go to Stuart and let him use up some of your okay Thank You Harry yes very much you