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okay I'm Harriet waiting and Maya graces one royally Dallas Texas okay so let's start it out tell me where was your family from originally before they even got to South America and both my parents grandparents came from Lithuania and my mother's parents went in the late 18-hundreds to South Africa and some of my grandfather's parents family went to Canada my father's parents went to England first when the name was changed to smooth and then the few years native air into Cape Town they were twelve children in that family with the mothers children so that's how they came to be there but we do have cousins
all over the place and stay in your immediate family where did they settle when they came to my immediate family my mother's family would have accrued stuff which is in the Orange Free State and little farming town my grandfather after closing like all the em arrested and started buying farms and my father's family settled in the Cape we were all eventually schooled into sports and so on how long were you there before you come across the decision to move out of South where that we moved in 1977 and for a few years we had been talking about it but not really and then 1976 came
with all the rights and there were a few interesting incidents that happen that we suddenly realized we needed to be out of there with the party we didn't dream that Mandela would come to power we didn't think and so we started looking my husband David is a physician we came to America he went to one of the dermatology Academy meetings they offered him a job and we were one of the very lucky ones because we got a green card within three weeks of returning what do we keep this soon what city was that he said he was offered a job in tennis and then he
was also offered to go and look at something at Duke we went to Duke it was the first time I'd ever seen snow it was in January and but we decided Dallas was a biggest city at the time we wanted to be here is that your main reason for coming here right any other considerations and mainly political and we decided that they were talking at the time that they were going to script all the young men into the army and we have three sons and we decided that if they were Civil War that's not what we wanted it seems fancy for now but at the
time it was a very big consideration no it makes sense yes so you can hear but did you consider you said you were thinking about it back and forth a little bit any other country and in a place before you knew and David has qualifications in England but we again we decided that this was was vision for the family Australia seems so far away well there most of my sister's children and family of landed up in Australia how long have they been there Oh about 25-30 years saving very early when they were quite young my sister stayed though she did not move just don't she
has she done had two years ago but she's any other family and friends when they saw that you were leaving decided well they're gonna go ahead and do that as well we've got to find your sisters and my parents cries matted with saliva and she was absolutely for us moving at the time she was in a rage and she did not want to come she wouldn't consider there she visited quite a lot she did not she didn't - you know she had her sisters there Sarge's in the 80s Elise it's in Denise it's more exciting and romantic I think emotionally you don't really realize when
he first got here to Dallas what were your first impressions a little bit when you knew we visited and we'd actually stayed with the Mantis yes David partly trained Allen say we knew them well and we stayed with him for about two weeks before we bought a house I think it was very exciting it was very different you know to even buying milk was a catastrophe you never seen so many varieties used to going to the draggy it took about two years to sudha know where I was going try me come down the side of the road people were actually fantastic because David was at
the Medical School we assimilated quite quickly you know there were no options where was your first house here you're going here each it was on hallmark Hockaday and then in about 83 we moved to wrong way and schools were a problem because you know they started the best thing that we didn't move the system I'd been to a conference and we seen the children to st. Monica and took the parrot Israel for Bar Mitzvahs how does your Jewish life cultural life compared to back home to here I think we was sooo sheltered there that it was just Blair and here we have rigid you know when we started out we had to work for it work to belong work to get to know the communities quite early on I became a member of agency so that's still my pleasure okay and then see did you see I think is more opportunity here to tap out in Jewish life it's not just there it makes it's grown a line or two and oh it's grown
tremendously what type of employment did you have back home and what did you do here when I was in radiography in the x-rays and as far as I was concerned and actually all things sort of happened and I opened Romans practice he's a radiologist from Simon you know Brad and Charlotte and and then went to the medical school to open up Eston Center radiology and then Children's Medical Center and then decided to return and so I went into consulting soon as a hospital based information systems and then one of her daughters opened a training business it sort of grew and it's called image dynamics and
so I've always been part of it in November 2000 I join - and she's here and Joe's here is - mmmm five children are in Dallas what are they doing when I said Noah Kim runs this business when tortoise in the Channel Islands and Jersey her husband's in banking one is in Australia a biologist and a professor at Macquarie said once in in Florida and he owns a little daily restaurant waiting in Tamarac no ice deliver plantation ever my goodness we five minutes probably from his petal I'm sure and he gave me to a school called Johnson & Wales which he wished I heard this
one this is his sort of passion and he's done different things around it so do you have any grandkids I'm sure an 8 8 so who's here see we had fun anyways yes Simon is here and Kim is here they each have two points one is 17 1 is 15 of Kim's voice when has just gone to college of Simon's son so the other two started high school boys in Florida and then in England we do we do we're very lucky have you been involved with you say you're obviously you and her husband are in the medical community have you gotten involved in things civically
Dallas wise besides the Jewish community Rydia me medically have been mainly the Jewish community what traditions would you say you've brought here with you if any he knew when you asked me that when you read that Christian to be over the king to mind was a silly story about the food and and the Jewish holidays and I think there's a traditions we've really brought with us Harry I have not supported and I think what is so warming is that I have a dear friend who grew up in Detroit and her grandmother used to do exactly the same I think it says ma'am not that you
know it's just any way everywhere it's the same we just well been specifically that do you see that any of your traditions here besides Jewish traditions have actually been South African traditions are not so much not really I think if I really put my mind to it I think entertaining at home might be something that we brought but I don't know that that's uniquely South African you know I I think basically social how important was Israel to you and your family grow you knew it was important that we had Israeli still happen Israeli cousins and I think it's become more and more important as the
years have gone on and problems and so on it's it's very important and I think it's a different stage of life - I think when we came you know one was younger in two different stage with their kids and now you've mentioned if your family is spread out a bit under mediate and beyond right are there still family or friends that are in South Africa that you wish would move here or that are considering moving and I think I wouldn't have one nice lifted and two one some the others are all in Australia as I mentioned I really wish she would move out I wish
she'd be with her siblings in Australia if not here probably Australia it's it's not in the cards too so many people have moved either Australia here even England we have lots of people what if anything do you miss about your life and said that okay I think he needs today but in the beginning was just that family and end of history you knew you lose your past you can say do you remember when do you remember soon so it's just that you know certain things and I think it's time you knew 38 years yes it's a long time to form another life and we've now
got our own family group were you able to find people here I'm sure you were that were from somewhere near where you were found yes I think you may still keep them in their community that we friends with of coffee is obviously yes infancy obviously you have citizenship yes how long did that take you over that process oh my gosh that was about we've been here five years to the day when we got our citizenship yes absolutely if we were going to live here we were very adamant we needed to vote how long have you been able to return for a visit in the early
days we went you know pretty regularly maybe every two years and then three years especially when that mother was alive and now we haven't been apart from going out two years ago for assistance funeral not in 10 and if I went it would be to the game wonderful game on parks to the cave but it's pretty violent it's a great change later the other place - it is absolutely gorgeous can you sum up for us Harriet in general obviously you are but tell us why you're glad that you came here I think that we are so lucky it's given us all of us a chance
especially myself and David people tell you led to a chance to do things that we never dreamed we could do and it really is a land of opportunity sometimes hard I mean we were pretty hard like everybody we really thank God every day that we that we go to three citizenship and that we yeah even with only the funny games on sometimes you