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October 24th 2006 my name is Roslyn been jet for the Dallas I'm here with Shari Ruth who's taking notes and Debbie saya who is our videographer and we're here to talk with Howard Schultz today Howard tell me about your panel my family actually grandparents were born in Europe and some years later to passengers and what did your parents do for a living well my father contracted a virus at a very special age was around and I only really recollection of him is that he was ill and unable to work so my mother was the chief supporter of the family and what did she do well
she worked in retail and try to make sure to get the family going my sister myself and your sister is older and she's younger she's four years younger they live in Birmingham Alabama and when you were a child weren't where did you did you live in a large city with lived in Paterson was it what kind of lived in Paterson a two-family house and in a very nice City I never realized or thought of myself as being poor because all of us were poor during the Depression and so nobody was disadvantaged and I have good memories of early childhood including the usual things of stupid
stickball and playing on the streets and things like that and so many of our lives did your family attend the synagogue actually we go to my father was ill and and he was not observant I attended synagogue through two permits and that was my mother made sure that I went to cater and after school and and what was the congregation like yeah actually is a it's a congregation it's still pretty vibrant today it's a conservative congregation did your family family celebrate Jewish holidays well my recollection is that we celebrated the major ones we didn't celebrate together although in Hebrew school I remember being involved with
the celebrations as well so probably he did a lot of it at the school and among friends with us there was a significant Jewish population there affect our public school clothes for the Jewish holidays which is quite unusual here those things in Texas but I came from Pennsylvania and they didn't tell me about her education well I went to high school in down in Paterson and graduated from there in 1945 and actually in January is still wartime and I was accepted to Cornell Engineering College and that was the start in February so this is midterm but the way the colleges were working in the at
work time they had an accelerated program so you would have three three semesters in the year and so I started in February 1945 at Cornell University and when year end and actually stayed through thee through the summer of the next year 1946 at that point I at that point I knew that I was going to need some finances in order to continue my college the GI Bill what is still out there for those of us who would enlist and so I had list been in the Army in 1946 and being listed in the Army I was then pushed into the Air Force because that was
before they were separate services and I then served from 1946 to 1948 went back to Cornell part of I went in was because I wasn't sure what I ever wanted to do with my life I didn't like engineering or chemical civil I tried civil engineering and when I came back I went into the liberal arts college my mathematics is a major and petition and the teacher I took economics is the other component of a double major and let's go back to being a teenager in Paterson they do belong to any kind of debris you active in sports or any other activities in school or Oh
Jewish youth group sir well yes all of the youth groups were Jewish but I suppose the people loved my friends were Jewish and I can remember fondly groups they would call the Cherokees or whatever they were golden the ymh a was a big thing in our lives and then of course the the usual sports most of which took place in the streets or in the parks but yes that was but it was not a major thrust of my life probably the most significant thing that happened is that is that I found out that I liked music and music was big among our group and during
that particular time big bands were very prominent and so for the last several years in high school I was part of a big band and that was a very wonderful time in my life I enjoyed the music and I enjoyed they become Ravelry and it was a very healthy thing to do as well and it was something that followed me and I stayed with for years and usually as group disservice when I was at the service I was looking into the 529 m air force and in in Denver Colorado and played in the military band for the time that was in service what instrument I
started out with clarinet then went to saxophone and in the bands I used to play sax and clarinet sacks primarily in clarinet occasionally but they these were the days of Harry James and Benny Goodman Artie Shaw all those prominent bands and it was fun it was exciting and but they banned sound was just wonderful it was really I still I still sometimes no couldn't think that maybe I'll go back and take it up again to get him out there some of the functions here and meet some of the people who are involved in it play like what Greta they're out there playing and others I've
threatened and I'm gonna go wait a minute one of these days I still have it did up on the shelf but it's just one of the things that I determined that I was going to do when I after I retired and so like this I was gonna do a number of things I haven't gotten to that one yet but then you were actually musician all through service all through service and then on to college if I worked my way through college supplementing the GI Bill playing in bands weekends and like and enjoying it thoroughly what happened after college what what did you decide well after
college I got lost in the world because most of the people that I was in school with in 1950 were engineers and they had offers of employment right after they graduated either that or there were pre-med students that were out of med school so I was one of the few people that was able to stay in liberal arts and one of the few people didn't have a job and I got out of college and I like searched and searched and searched finally made a connection through Cornell alum and ended up on Wall Street in 1950 just prior to Korea so my timing through life beginning
with that was absolutely flipped öitís because I had just finished my service there's my college and if I hadn't done that I would have been the first up to serve in Korea but of course I changed the complexion of things in the United States it was well affected employment and but I started it Wall Street worked there for a year while I tried to find my myself comfortable I really didn't feel comfortable there a different job as a in the mathematical field mathematical statistics working there on stocks and bonds and I'm like but I found that much too confining I really wasn't very happy with
that I began to look for work and then I had the opportunity to apply for a job with highlight stores - retailer and I want on the training program in their controller training program and that was a year later 50 after that and I went through that program it was very satisfying to me I found retailing something that I already liked although that was the first time that I ever became aware of the fact that most every retailer that I knew worked six days a week and so I found myself work for six days a week and it wasn't until many years later when I
got out of retail a night because I really thought everybody work six days a week and but they were telling you no work six days a week and we certainly did and part of the lore of joining a light source was the fact that they had stores all over the country and by then I was fired as like a video of communic committee from Paterson New Jersey to the all country I tried every which way to get there I try to blame on the ferry have a train ride no I'm driving the car halfway drive tried to come all the way bus hanging out of
the strap and none of that really suited I just gotta find out where the life is better away from New York and the violence those that had that opportunity because a part of the as part of the training program I was wouldn't be in Greensboro North Carolina knows we'll be in Minneapolis Minnesota and I was in being Cleveland Ohio and so I enjoyed that and I was with them for some 13 years from 1951 to 1964 and [Music] things went awry that you see at that point in time I I had met Leslie and her in 1962 and I didn't we were in Kansas City
I that's where I met her and this was the beginning of the move on the part about I had to get into this discount world and I became their first controller of a discount store but it happened to be office and they dog so Lee ended up back in the garden and and at that point we had some business reversals and I thought this is gonna be better for me to get out of this out of this into something else and it was 1966 - by that time it we had moved within our life from from the off to Minneapolis where we spent a year
I was a journal management at the time I actually worked in st. Paul and then in nineteen thirty-six there was the opportunity to come to Dallas and I think I have the right the right years now in the hidden thinking is through but that's the current the chronology was that I went in that order I think we might have been here a little earlier than men in 1966 but anyway then the new life started here in Dallas and definitely mid sixties let's put it that way okay happy to meet you Mike blinding met Leslie through the good efforts of my mother who moved with me to Minneapolis to to Kansas City and at that point in time she
happened to meet less less least older sister and and she was always looking out for my behalf and said she had son was a eligible agent and upon questioning unless they sister said like they'd come a little bit to go for your son but I do want younger sister and she offered less lease number and so at that point I put that number in my wallet men must weeks later before I found it and that I think I'll call we met on February 9th which was the day before my birthday I happened to see her with another date on February 10th which was my birthday
and she was attending a surprise party for me because some people me true friends knew each other and so there I bumped into Leslie again and and then I saw her February 11th and and it wasn't just a few months before we got married yeah there was no question in my mind that this was the love of my life and so we got married on July 1 later on February 9th married July 1 a skort 17 and when you came to Dallas what were your impressions of the city when you first came uh I was excited Puckett in Dallas I had heard good things about
it I think you know whatever negatives that had been connection with the Kennedy thing worked wasn't a factor in any of our decisions it didn't affect our lives I look forward to coming to Dallas it was just something very exciting I had been in a number of cities by that time throughout lights doors and so there was no hesitation no apprehension about coming here I was coming to work for a drug concern and we tell the Skilling drug company you