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good afternoon my name is may siebel it is march 8 2020 and i interviewing yvonne dictor for the one story at a time project viva shalom celebrating latin american jews in dallas good afternoon yvonne will you please tell us where you are from originally costa rica okay talk about your family life in costa rica i have uh a little family down there from my mother's side she has three sisters and one brother they were 10. and two brothers actually one was we live in san jose and my uncle dio jose in cartage and theo luis santiago central five of my mom's sisters and brothers they were killed in the holocaust and my grandmother so and then later on my father had a brother who emigrated from israel to costa rica so we were a close type family we enjoy visiting them and so tell me what your life was like in costa rica very nice you know very nice people down there you didn't feel any anti-semitism very welcoming very nice i miss that and you're tell me how involved you were with jewish life in san jose i left the country when i was 17.
i went to mexico to the university and then the first week i arrived there i met my husband future husband and then what can i tell you um we have a nice jewish life there is a synagogue well now there are more than one and all the girls and boys we got together you know we have reunions and we met at the park we met the different places very very nice so there were a lot of activities for young jewish people yes okay and um what about um your you were talking about was it your father's family that lost so many in the holocaust and
what about your father's family tell me about them um my father's family lives in israel before the 48th war they are pioneers and the only one that didn't live with them was my father he was for a time living in france and then in belgium and finally he came to costa rica because a good friend of him told him come you will like it and in fact he did like it and what kind of work did he do in costa rica um he had a dry goods store in san jose but before he was living in san jose they were living in a outside the
main city called tu turrialva smaller town and then he had also a small business there and what brought you to the united states i married in mexico like i was telling you and and that year the situation in mexico started to be not too safe there was a devaluation and many jewish people didn't feel you know like secure they were afraid of what's going to happen so my husband said let's go out from here and we have been to the alas dallas was smaller nice city booming and i have my brother in here and how long ago was that that you moved here in 78
1978 was it an adjustment to be in the united yes but i do like it it's different what did you find that was difficult in the transition and then change this translation actually i didn't we had a little problem with the papers so for five years we could not leave the country we could not travel anywhere in the embassy in the american embassy in mexico oh they sold our numbers to get a number to go out as a come to live here in america and each time that my husband called to find out if the papers were ready they would say not yet not yet
before we left the country i asked to the council the school has already started my children didn't speak english so i say i don't want to be late can we leave yes go and live in two weeks you'll have your papers that didn't happen until five years later what was what reason were they giving you for holding up your papers they did not give me a reason but when i had to sign for the papers they i put where do no i said then what do you want me to say mexico yes that was so weird and then they gave you the papers to be
here like you didn't count those five years so that must have been a difficult time to have to worry about that oh yes all my neighbors where we live they got together they wrote a letter they went to the government and they told them what a nice family uh my husband had a hardware store he's giving providing jobs the kids are going to school and i am at home you know why are you not giving them the papers they are not doing anything wrong it took five years did that help when the neighbors got together and wrote the letters for you at least we not
no it did not at one point they were deporting us but my husband told i'm not leaving i he could stay but we had to leave and he said i'm not leaving i'm not letting my wife go so that was it when they start moving my neighbors more i went to see a lawyer and he told me don't be afraid you you they won't stop you in the streets you are concussion i'm white that must have been very frightening to think that you might be deported and then one day in my husband's visit many people come in and there was this man that speaks spanish
and became friendly with my husband and my husband saw him on tv with the president and then he asks you what are you doing you know why he told him that he works in the government and if he not for that man who say can i use your phone and he called directly and asked what's happening with the papers from the addictors a few days after the callers from the embassy come to pick your papers well that was lucky that he happened to walk into your husband's store that's a what a story yes how old were your children when you moved here they were just
beginning school they were my daughter was 15 and my son was 13. how was the adjustment for them to be here oh they are just wonderful they just didn't especially my son and he said we are in prison they don't let us go out he wants to see his friends but other than that they adjusted perfectly and did it take them very long to learn english no because children learn very quickly you know so they were very active in jewish life here always and they still are and i have three granddaughters oh from my son also very active do they live here they do the oldest one is in miami she's working with the witcher in miami very
interesting what else can you share about your family your history i [Music] i have been many times to israel and visit all my uncles and cousins and we kept in touch my family from costa rica all my uncles and my aunts and my father and my mother passed away i still have one cousin with his children and one cousin a widow from one of my cousins i have another cousin who lives in washington dc was ambassador from costa rica in washington some years ago and what else and are you involved in the jewish community here yes not much lately but i am i am that's
good and what about your children live here yes they live so you have your grandchildren two of them one is in miami okay how old are they oh 25 is the oldest oh yes three years apart each one forever and that other than that is a very welcoming place i had a lot of friends very welcoming i have all the family block i really cuz claver took me to skaggs told me what to buy i still buy today lando lakes because she turned and then my friend shula shula live sheet lavi she was afraid to drive in highways so i will drive her when she
needed to go we enjoy and then marley at woolens very dear friend of mine who passed away and um well thank you very much for telling us your story we appreciate it