Larry Golman
Larry Golman was born at Methodist Hospital in Dallas on September 21, 1932, into a large immigrant family. His father emigrated from Russia, arriving in Galveston in 1911 and coming to Dallas at the invitation of relatives who ran a bakery, while his mother's family came from the Russian-Polish border region and worked in the produce business. Larry grew up with dozens of first cousins in the Oak Cliff neighborhood, where his family built a home. His father became a leader in the baking industry, an innovator in bread production, and an active civic figure, serving as president of the Shearith Israel congregation and earning recognition as an outstanding citizen of Oak Cliff.
Larry attended Rosemont Elementary, Sunset High School, and the University of Texas, where he was active in a fraternity, campus organizations, and the tennis team, and later earned his law degree. After being drafted into the United States Army in 1956, he served as a legal advisor to his unit before returning to Dallas. Rather than practicing law, he joined the family baking business, which he remained with until it was forced into bankruptcy in 1972 amid fierce competition. He then built a career in commercial real estate brokerage, eventually opening his own office in 1985 and continuing that work for decades.
On July 5, 1957, Larry met Kate Gilbert on a blind date, and they married on November 30, 1958, remaining together for more than 43 years until her death. They raised three children and were blessed with ten grandchildren. A devoted keeper of Jewish tradition, Larry maintained regular Shabbat and holiday gatherings and did much of the cooking himself. He gave extensive volunteer service, sitting on the boards of the Jewish Federation of Greater Dallas, the Jewish Community Foundation, Shearith Israel, and legacy senior communities, and doing pro bono real estate work for Jewish and civic causes. He lives by simple philosophies about staying young at heart and cherishing each day and the people you love.
He credited mentors including his university tennis coach and family friend Jack Evans, and expressed deep gratitude for the many people, Jewish and non-Jewish, who shaped his life and community.
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my name is Nancy Ungerman I'll be interviewing Larry Goldman today today is the June 20th and I am interviewing Larry for the Dallas Jewish Historical Society Larry goalmouth where were you born I was born in Dallas Texas September 21 1932 that Methodist Hospital I was I think the first Jewish boy ever born at that Hospital and in those days I believed the motherís statement hospital for rather lengthy periods of time and my bridge was at the hospital and oh I don't remember this I was told many times over the years if the nurses really enjoyed the one hand that was served at the tris live
in Dallas all my life with the exception of the four years the University of Texas and two years serving our great country in the United States Army were your parents born it dad no my father emigrated to Dallas of zomling Russia on October 11th 1893 and he said brought his parents and seven siblings to Dallas within the next three years of their backs and my mother came with her family from Poland which we papi the Russian polish border which has changed many times over the years and her maiden name is France is good with it and in fact this year I'm a leap ahead a
little bit we're going to celebrate the 100th year the Goldman family in Dallas or having a weekend reunion and so Victoria event which will include a Friday night Shabbat service of shirt this Rover to have five generations members and a cocktail party my nephew visas home and then a brunch at churches on Sunday how many will there be well it's good question probably over 100 just the gold once I got the goal of good families I had 35 first cousins my mother was one of seven my late dad was one of eight and had 35 first cousin majority which lived in Dallas we've got no
parents to Dallas my father came my father came here on October 11th 1911 and that was day before Columbus Day he arrived on the strength the ship Frankfurt from Germany in Galveston came to Dallas was brought here by his uncle John chefs and and Jenny chefs who had the chef's bakery and they've gone back to your F and said if you come to Dallas will fade away or something he had gone to do bleep hammered and work six months their bakery became a master baker came to Dallas arrived with two dollar and fifty cent gold piece and went to work then the chef's bakery for
26 straight hours which today wouldn't do that of course and my mother came over you don't know the reason her family emigrated Dallas they were primarily the produce business what did I think that ships with dairy well there's ships as a large family in one of the lake Joseph brother was the had Harman chefs in his mid nineties a wonderful wonderful person he had the chef's stereo there's another branch eventually Joe chefs family went in the liquor village son Julius went electric Venice where cutest chefs as he was a great brother citizens of our community he used 10 over 100 for beatings a month as
various China dues involve everything law I would take for granted that your father came to escape yes surprise I think probably bribed a guard at the borders most of all did I guess and he was worth chefs bakery in 1921 he and a brother and a brother-in-law left and bought the bakery from Adolphus Busch of the bush and I was a bush family then Adolphus bakery down I bought that bakery and operated for several years - by 1928 and I think it was then sold to what was called purity bakeries which is the national chain which became American bakery and he worked for them for
two years travel he it was production Souter came as a master baker over ten bakeries and the high Depression 1930 he and his brother late brother Julius Coleman who was the father of the net Jason and the link Joe Coleman who was the City Council or the state legislature started two bakeries one on their own and Goldman baking at 1835 Corinth South Dallas some had Oak Cliff bacon coming in 5:46 east 9th street and Marsalis and the old cliff section in Dallas that was during the height of the depression when I believe I think Bob Thornton we headed the mercantile Bank in those days banking
was a bit different you know they've left it the person and their character they said well you think you're going to do well we'll only the money they started the bakery in nineteen the two bakeries in 1930 and eventually all of the brothers except one spent their livelihood well if Becky and gold and baking and prep the brand names we were eclipse we had cliff made bread the golden bakery call their product goldman and then we've actually changed a wholesome bread and then became sunday bread he was vice president's the highest position the American Bankers Association and was over 30 years on the national board
and very innovative in the bank he started sliced bread and enriched bread and had the foresight and the guts in the early 60s to change a whole baking process to process called banika it was a liquid type of donated the same of steel that brand was called Sunday batter but no holes in the bread with every dip whoever had me put in that baking business fortunately unfortunately not one for trucks and equipment but his modernization and my dad was very active in the community he was president his congregation sheriff Israel he serves a guy by the synagogue for numerous terms he was instrumental in hiring
rabbi wise fellow at the synagogue and was the recipient of the / George award outstanding citizen of Oak Cliff in 1937 yeah I went a backup then where were you born Oh cliff yeah well method hop we lived it for four thousand nine colonial my family built a two-story duplex oh yeah I was part of such Dallas and total just south of forest lane it was a close friend north-south again as far as lands east west and we had two-story duplex Harry litterers lived upstairs from this is a lot fiber I remember her name that was the grandmother their mother-in-law he was a Jewish Jim
who married a convert to Christian Science it was a Salesman that iam can I believe wonderful family they lived upstairs and the downstairs till way in 1939 they built a two-story beautiful two-story home in Stevens Park should be near the baking business but mr. liveries to throw baseballs to the pop he'd throw up near and I try to catch it he'd sell the ports and throw them up here's water for gentlemen and I remember I wouldn't have to cross street from even Joe banks she was Ashley packing Joe banks was Jewish and they had a package at the blue front restaurant downtown buy expensive and but they helped raised me Barbara banks and in fact her son-in-law is now on the board of legacy senior community sister and I can remember distinctly running across the street once almost getting hit they saved my life and I remember very distinctly there is
a sergeant the Dallas Police Department named Brent berry and I was probably four or five years old a very nice gentleman and he took me on a motorcycle ride in those days they had a little cab where he could sit somebody a little seat he said somebody took me for a ride I couldn't say frankerz i thought strawberry sorry strawberry I remember riding the rumble seat in a car as a youth in those days that I was going to Friedman's drugstore at the corner of grand @hardwick streets which was a great big hangout for the Jewish population and people generally had mother love in particular
chocolate sodas and they had a great pharmacy and drugstore they're back now I remember my sister Anita bless her heart Mary Charles Marcus she and her friend Elaine Marcia gold the golden family that had the golden pickles we had a chicken coop back of her house and that bright I did they had a wooden box like a bear case or something you know with handles and tied ropes they're gonna let me down from the chicken coop to the ground that's probably for three or four or five four or five unfortunately I dropped the Box halfway down but farce that was not perfect so that was
good then my sister pulled another one only once I started in colonial school after fishing mrs. Haynes category mr. Cheng's a little private school around the block where we went in and I remember one experiences mrs. Haynes the late to see Schwartz Feinberg was in that class a war half terrible root of knickers I think they were afraid of a pot prepared birthday and she made fun of my new curse and a few years ago I met my source at one time I said you know Ted see I remembered you make fun of me in those knickers maybe my said there was a play at Colonial one I went there half a year first grade started that term my sister was either in it or arranged for me to have a ticket at the front door and I was burning six I got to the front door they had no TV so I had to wait outside till was all over and it's very City those are some good I remember we had a bench at the end of the bed my parents had falling off that breaking my collarbone and also remember this is going way back obviously my mother like he's played bridge occasionally and the late mrs.
Harry Cessna Roxy who is además be lovely lovely lady remember once but she remind me of it all through my life here's later I looked at it once I said Roxy you're not so cute and she's dramatic then we went to Colorado or vacation I was five I don't remember a lot about it no snow but for but I said tesha scarred or received carpet excellent older well anyway in 1939 we built this beautiful home on Colorado 18:17 West Colorado Boulevard and moved in early September just for my late sister went back to the emergency Texas economy and I lived there until actually until I got married and my father who was never my brother lived there too the early 60s when they sold I I wouldn't imagine there was much Jewish population in Oakland Opeth had maybe six or seven families they admire family who was a city councilman you look around the corner front of us it turns out their oldest son is now my associate has been for about 15 years and commercial real estate so it's a small world out there and the Harry Miller's who was in the jewelry business lawrence jewelry well Jefferson and later in life he had a store that by the Athletic Club of st.
Paul they live around the corner and then behind us from a flower where the wolf family filled the lake fill wolf and senator actually there was a classmate of mine and next to them was at that time Jack Ruth good little Mayflower and raised their family married you don't see that was very dim and Teddy Harris's who was like a brother and me is the treasurer to our bakery worked for my dad the family time he went to ask me is not a job here been his whole life there's a wonderful man he was president Oh cliff Lyons was the city councilman they lived in
Oak Cliff as did maybe a couple other families most other prominent family was the I confess unlocks Keys this chapter was named after that Sheriff he was a long time gap I had shared Israel an honorary president and they had no children neither one drove he had the chef's on Bosque insurance ceil can see with judas ships lifted her next door and we stopped will take them to Shabbat Friday night services sheriff who drive in the show and had no children and he was a very close friend of Conrad Hilton because he in the way Harris Siegel bailed out Conrad Hill he was basically bankrupt
and mid-30s safety hotel business as a result mr. Sawatzky had all his interests for many years to help them change insurance until it got so big understand that kind of help needs to come to his house and have tea with his dead wife Eva Gabor and survivors wonderful when they passed away my brother-in-law Charles had set up a trust for them and I now privilege the settlement as a trustee my late dad used to be place olivine Judy chefs or trustees and they ten years of the trustee would anyway there's four of us of trustees today and we're blessed to sound a large foundation trust but we give somewhere around forty four to five thousand a year various beneficiaries including sheriff the Israeli Jewish Federation the labor some senior communities and some others Oh cliff because of the business yes correct my father's calls every night to the bakery yeah thank you going good production was at night and that was baked at night and so we would go there every night that main reason I went through Rosemont elementary school there's one other Jewish person my class david shroyer oh there's married to Lillian who it's a sister of dr.
Herman orange and David moved away to build a Kaufman Texas in about the third grade and remember distinctly there's a fella who went off through grammar school junior high high school college with me dick forward who turns out used to live a few blocks right off North Haven here eventually anyway he and David he said fights I remember that distinctly also I remember I used to be requested to stay after school sometimes for talking do that very classic and my late father used to come get me because one time I've ever had to go somewhere I can't have my son out early because I have
to take him somewhere but I was only just kidding Ashley Wolfe effective came there I think experiences with never really would you search the project I went to brighter junior high school I remember VJ Day Against 1945 when the war was over they asked people to speak the dress over loudspeaker not Jewish I was one of the cup of Jews where I guess and I spoke there now what the sunset high school anywhere from three to six year students such that today is probably 95 so your experience with this part of the world didn't start until after high school after Roger but I really got
married but I don't miss my dad was president but the Chamber of Commerce over there tribute in a man in the month he got the first order Brigade in 1934 Memphis hospital which today is a fabulous institution had to in fact they had to Chairman's in a row Jude Chairman's Eric Lyman and selling velocity in recent times with ask him to chair a fun Drive because they were basically broke and he said you wouldn't be a Jewish guy ahead but this hospital fund drive said we want you and they up raised four hundred thousand was a lot of money in nineteen thirty four hours what
are your experiences with religious school and where mostly did you go it wasn't South Dallas Wendy well sure additional moved in the 50s I can remember going to religious school at sheriff and I remember very distinctly my first rap by Raphael gold who was a brilliant man who became a psychiatrist and as a youth I remember he came to our home for dinner one time with a dr. Ettinger it was a brilliant professor at the University of Texas at my chair today of mathematics at what Department and after dinner I had this conversation nobody knew what they were talking about neither too pretty kind God by cocaine or Ruben Kaplan was our camp there he was he was a jack-of-all-trades he had three jobs he was a cantor he also was the moil and he was a chef he used to kill chickens his backyard coach of chickens he left at the corner of Harwood and South Boulevard on the north west corner temple Emmanuel was labeled with southeast corner and I can remember going way
back there to wrap my left - it says lady his 25th anniversary of tip on my shirt and my dad was present sheriff said by nineteen forty five or six we got still the front row but I went to religious school sheriff Israel we used to one time we had to get a teacher about every three or four weeks to the drop of teachers crazy basically run him off and I remember one time I was a we had some gentleman that hid behind the door of the annex building and we said classes out there sometime this little two-story house and we had a teacher come
in two or three of my fellow students hid behind a door jump down screaming sprang the teacher and so we had a new teacher two days later and I remember shared is no saint $40,000 into going to build an educational another building they built the foundation and that was it stayed there forever the Jews commissioner was right around the corner 18:17 Pocahontas and I join ACA as I remember as a kid I didn't like it too much I really wouldn't involve but during High Holy Day services we stand in the back row next to the back road that Goldman family in those days old family
had a couple of rolls and they were not individual seats over this bench seats with chair backs and a lot people used to go out to the city park which is outside the front door it's been half the time 50 kids most of the time at City Park but those were good days I had the first air-conditioned bar mitzvah churches roll September 1st 1945 my father was president we're just putting an air conditioner and to think of going to holy take services in August September that hundred degrees no air conditioning would put it in the week of my bar mitzvah and I can't remember having
the first air-conditioned for Vespa the first 45 there was a terrific turnout well I don't remember a lot about that I remember confirmation we had I think 21 boys and five girls five ladies 21 veils one of them was the other one sore laughter but this is my class late tipsy Schwartz bird there were five of her childlike was in that class five ladies my parents didn't know about 1937 my father had ulcers very bad he went to Mayo Clinic and they did wonders for yourselves had a really bad officers coach tell me how did you meet your wife how did I make my wife
that's a very good story that was probably the best day of my life I was July 5th 1957 I was drafted in the United States Army on October 15 1956 I got a terrific train ride to El Paso to Fort Bliss for 17 hours the basic thing I'll never forget getting off the train they said you're in the army now is about one of instead attention shredders rude awakening I'm a 24-year old law school graduate there's one gentleman a metal trend they do for Parker and even we've got off the train going after our met a gentleman who became bunk mates through basic training helped
save my sanity named Luther Parker who had gone sunset when I did University of Texas when I did I did not know until we won on the train together he was vice president parents drugstores so he was rather intelligent gentleman most of our young kids or two Jewish guys who acted with me Jerry Chris was a sister excuse me the brother of Phillips Prager and the late buddy Michaelson was also drafted that doctor basic training was most over 17 and 18 year olds remember having this little cubicle over for missus Terrebonne and Street two other guys they were from Louisiana and one of them couldn't
read write read his mail for his daughter but anyway I got through basic training my whole army story it would be another week but what to clerk typist feel for eight weeks and as a lawyer I had a chance to become a judge after general an officer but that was three years on strategy for two years I did not want to spend the extra year so I wound up as keeping personnel records for a month or two and then we had a major and Chester hell couch Regular Army in 1939 enlisted spit his life in the army rough and gruffly had some likened to me
just Goldman I want you to be my legal advisor for the Gretchen with about 2300 people so I got my own office reached the rank of specialist five and I give him legal advice about you the court-martial guy or something of that nature I didn't do a lot which is probably off base in fact my last 17 months they let me do that cuz they trusted me I guess yeah well July 5th 1957 a fraternity brothers pledge brothers of mine who's a doctor the Air Force from out pass away from town and call me taking out a few ladies they're not hurt my wife's name
Kate Gilbert I plan to take her out seven date with this gang killer would you go with us so we did I went out with him that's what I'm better and he left town and I called her the next week July 12 1957 did you remain friends with well ironically he lives in Dallas were not real close to particular over the years since I lost my darling we become very very close friends his wife lovely to me and importantly he's quite alright Dennis Arnold national or a little Dorothy Jake a stuff but anyway when taxi like twelve gate was a fishing a freshman year just
fishing fresh beer Sophie do come in New Orleans and went back to school and we correspondents um I took out someone here intermittently and she came back to her past over the following summer of 1958 and her August 30th 1958 of couple weeks after my late very close Jenica would come through town as its bride Sally on their honeymoon in Medicaid you need to marry her so August 30 or the first time I told her I loved her we got engaged chamber 4th 1958 and we're married November 30th 1958 it out - married for 43 years and one month in two days three children were
blessed with three children which are now six children because they're all married terrific people son mark was farmed July 14 1961 and then a daughter was born November 5th 1963 and then Sunday but the redhead not read anymore was apart the same day as my father's birthday was a very lovely birthday present for my father gay into slavery he was born April 15th 1965 the two sons and my daughters but married to another Dallas with seven six of my grandchildren our daughter Elaine and family Ken wolf live in San Antonio they had four boys the Lord has been very good to me in many ways
have 10 grandchildren eight boys and two girls and they all most of them went here one two or three colors were there six of the ten grandchildren my Dallas chair grandchildren called me Larry because my late father changed his grandchildren called it Jade and I'm very difficult condition very big of that and a daughter who wants them to call me say here kids have said to us they call me some work to keep up with all these names it's hard to keep up with your birthday's yes yes but we have a lot of fun together spent a lot of time together you said you're big
on tradition how did you spend the Jewish holidays growing up and how does transcend growing of course you know always want to show that family dinner sailors Rosh Hashanah December 25th all the years we would have lunch because that was the only day that bakery with clothes so we all have a big lunch it on the 25th of December since I lost my darling we still have Russia Shana yo kid for a patient with dollar Glen coast of San Antonio and we have the second satyr hour half minute to satyrs and second satyrs at my house we have the second day Russia shot at my
house and we have to break the fast in my house which is generally of about 38 or 40 42 people basically do much other than my daughter primarily but we have kept every Shabbat every Shabbat what I can do it I kept up tradition that my wife and I had of having children over for Friday night dinner as a grand children get older they have their own activities you see little bit less but we're trying to have an every Friday night and I'm sitting down at a time fortunate for them I do the cooking which are rather simply oh yeah simple meals what's it simple
basically three different videos either steak and or fish or pasta and pizza or all american night which consists of hamburgers and coach hot dogs for you Larry but it and gentlemen or rather selfish as they go through life they do not realize the work involvement that a wife goes through the preparing meals often three meals a day all their lives for 30 40 60 years and just to prepare Friday night dinner it's several hours to go to the store preparing and say the table Washington vegetables whatever you do it's a lot of work I hope you're a lot but it's this fun I joined we
had fun we have the kiddush first we like the candles we have kids do the whole kiddush have a moat see I'm not chef do we have to backtrack a little you went to law school well in high school did you mention that you worked I did this summer some work the office in the summer I went to sunset high school I had what's the 50th reunion but I'm not too many friends or sunset truthfully there I want the Oersted Texas you went to law school about what the earth to Texas for four years no very active I guess I may have inherited that my
father became very active I was when I started college I was 16 turned 17 during my first semester first month actually didn't know too much nothing about nothing I was very shocked believe it or not and there's no much about women and buddy not gone out of great deal prior to going to college but I joined a fraternity Sigma to be the same and I was very active about this secretary recorder of dirty ice in a fraternity council for three years or secretary territory council I just started playing tennis by my junior high student ever played high school tennis I went after the tennis team
they had a wonderful wonderful tennis coach it was a Greek professor at dr. da peening and he allowed me to play on the tennis team a Leonard or the Freshman team got to play one more steam a got a reserved varsity letter it's a highlight of athletic career and turned out at the tennis team manager because I didn't feel I want to put up next wash clothing and stuff but I got a fraternity part of that job I've reacted in politics on campus and that was Silver Spur which is one of two honorary fraternities or Conference organizations on campus I ran a political campaign for a brother for vice president he lost about 3 votes which caused me cry
great deal personally and but I really enjoyed my four years university a great number of friends made which were still my closest friends probably but you went to law school I wonder I was going to I was accepted to law school with University of Texas in the summer of 1953 was very cool munde my family my mother died I don't know she died on August these second 1953 which was my sister and his birthday I was buried on their own birthday the next day and in nineteen days later my older sister passed away here in Dallas who lived at Tulsa was married there Jimmy asked
who was present Republic Bank helped my dad get a plane to Frager Dallas she had nephritis kidney disease in those days errs zero they could do that she died nineteen days thereafter devastated our family then I decided stakeholder asking you are you an attorney I am attorney not practiced practice a little bit when I graduate law stood for us drafted the army and I've kept my license all the years by taking legal education when you reach age 70 you're exempt for that but I've kept my life since all these years and when I got out of the army I chose to go into the family
baking business as opposed to practicing law I probably should practice law in the family baking business which I was in that till 1972 when unfortunately we had to take bankruptcy competitor Manor bakery that was door-to-door part of Campbell tigrin corporation and they decided to go wholesale those doors are expensive and to do that they spent about two million dollars which was a little bit more in our treasury a million 950 and they would give grocers free bread or very one day by every ten that give him a free one and just building balls away in the business which causes the father antitrust lawsuit against them
which we settled after we were finished with their bankruptcy the day after the Cowboys won their Super Bowl law firm younger government recommended was Joan a fella Palmer and with the bankruptcy and he left out never forget says you're the only people I've ever had bankruptcy that didn't walk away you have nothing in your pockets but we were that's just whatever life we were honest your father was a character was very good friends you know Paso who had a wealthy friend of hitters if they invested some money in the business and we kept it running another year and a half fathers are an understatement and
your career now that's why I went to real estate brokerage and have some friends I could determine whether to go into practicing law which I did 15 years out of law school I think you have to go to school all over again or as friends it doesn't feel well at real estate brokerage some of the commercial real estate brokerage with the Pearson Christopher for about a year and a half which I started death and then I went with the Steve stringers mother Paula sharing that very small commercial operation I stayed there about five years they sold out to Merrill Lynch which was their first pitch
of Merrill Lynch's into commercial right the real estate and the stringers asked my advice I said it only comes around once what a big shift comes a better grab it if not every how they or someone will take that money and they did that and I stayed for years as company do nothing about real estate it was not very wasn't geared for that I guess working for some orange national firm so in January 1985 Open Office me myself and I chamber 1535 and I have two associates one I've been doing that for myself a little far for 26 years what is your involvement with the
Jewish community well now it's a bit less than he used to be the late-era troffer got me started in the Jewish community I did a lot of stuff I work from about ten campaigns of fundraising for non-jewish entities I could go through them all and be a long time and I was vice president of the Association children served as president of Texas Exes to sociation of Dallas I was president of Texas Baker's brother when I was a baking business the way I think everyone got me involved in the Jewish community and I had the privilege of serving about 12 14 years on the board of
the Jewish Federation of Greater Dallas hey they're planning outpatient committee at one time very active campaign a number of years I was on the board of the Jewish Community Foundation headed to the real estate committees for 10 years I served on the Holocaust board I was on the board sheriff Israel secretary strengths in at one time of Education Board and best a committee also served on the board of two years at Solomon Schechter skooch is now being Academy I have currently vice president of the North Haven Campus Corporation which is the umbrella organization it's titled to the Jewish Community Center Federation properties and I've served
the last number of years only probably about 15 years on the board of the Dallas over to take it down on his legacy senior communities we have time to go to work well I used to kid my leg wife puts her memory that the reason God invented Shabbat was there no meetings on Friday those ever times of my life I thought of meeting Monday night Tuesday night Wednesday night Thursday but the home has become sort of passion now yes I served as vice president treasurer of golden acres which home in long runs down the board of golden acres and successor to legacy Preston Hollow and
I've served on the board and legacy senior committees the umbrella organization for 15 years or 12 or 14 years one of the things that I probably enjoyed the most was I got a little pro bono real estate work for the set that you club of Dallas helping them acquire land for life it says that you club with our search of my life member acquire some land for the expansion of the chair Johnson Community School which is a phenomenal acquired some land for like Heidi age which is some sort of semi free housing for those that needed housing but in the Jewish community I was chairman
of real estate committee and helped sell a property donated to the foundation by the late Lawrence Pollock and his wife Hortense where they kept a life estate and their residence 8.4 acres of Lochan Preston helped sell that property to the late Fred Bear and his wife and built the monsters house there also I chaired the real estate committee of the legacy or home and acquired eight acres of land for assisted living facility at Ohio and Shepard Plano which we never built because that was a financially ruinous thing to do help sell that and acquire these 24 acres with a see it will vanish now so
I guess that's about 14 billion dollars of real estate acquisitions that I just did because I thought that isn't thing to do but that's probably not realistic for today but I joined it you got to get back a little bit to pick the space that God gives you the service in this interview you talk about so many wonderful people in your life so this is a hard question who are your two or three or four role models and this tennis coach diversity Texas he was in fact was got the a pin I mean if he was never curse ever since word just was a wonderful
human being and there probably did some others Jack Evans was a good friend of my family and fathers is a tremendous gentleman Dallas had blessed with some tremendous non Jewish and Jewish citizenry of this community they're probably some others is there anything that you might want add that I have left it out well I have to in my latter years of my mature years it's good way to say that I have two rather simple philosophies and I lived by I tell people this some sort of life and some say that's pretty good stuff one is and my grandkids and children have been wonderful to me
keep me young and I have a philosophy I'm just and I've had this for some years but Mr Kydd waiting to grow up and if God blesses you with reasonably good health and the building you get around you should enjoy life and have a good outlet for life and the other is if you're blessed with if you get up in the morning and put on your shoes you're set up it's a lot of people cannot do it turn on the light yourself because you're blessed with a wife or husband or children let them know you love them each and every day get it your car
you need to go to work or volunteer whatever you do life if you do that you're very fortunate because you whether you're 20 40 80 whatever your age you don't know what tomorrow may bring