Marsha Lefkof
Marsha's family roots reach across continents. Her paternal grandfather was born in Vilnius, Lithuania, and came to the United States around 1918 to avoid being drafted into the Lithuanian army. Taken off his ship in Boston with smallpox, he was separated from his brother, who could not disembark until reaching Mexico. The two lost contact for 50 years before being reunited, and their Mexican branch of the family, originally named Karakowski before her grandfather changed it to Gordon, thrived and later spread to Monterrey and Houston. Other relatives perished in the Holocaust. Her paternal grandmother was born in Boston, and her mother's family came from the Minsk area of Belarus and settled in Providence.
Marsha grew up in Providence until age 11, roller-skating through her Jewish neighborhood, then moved to Lawrence, Massachusetts, where her father worked in men's clothing. Her mother, who died when Marsha was 16, was an active volunteer with Jewish organizations, sang in the synagogue choir, and instilled a lifelong love of service. Marsha was active in her temple youth group and volunteered at a cerebral palsy clinic, which sparked her interest in physical therapy. She attended the University of Connecticut, worked in Connecticut and Michigan, and earned an advanced degree at Boston University before taking a teaching position that brought her to Dallas.
In Dallas, Marsha married Gary, a physician she met soon after arriving, and the couple raised two daughters, Heather and Melissa. She threw herself into community life through Federation's Younger Set, NCJW, Hadassah, and city politics, serving on the Cultural Affairs Commission for about six years and as president of the Dallas Chamber Orchestra. She helped launch cultural arts at the JCC and co-chaired a year-long JCRC project commemorating the expulsion of Jews from Spain, which helped identify some 1,000 Sephardic Jews in Dallas. A longtime member of Temple Emanu-El and later Congregation Shalom, she has directed the Shalom gift shop for about three and a half years.
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so today is thursday december 10th 2020. i'm joe reingold with the dallas jewish historical society and i'm interviewing marsha lefkoff this this afternoon hi marcia how are you hi um well tonight is hanukkah it's a special time for everybody and we would like to know a little bit about your background your parents your grandparents if you happen to know uh where they were from where they lived what kind of work that they did what kind of lives they led and where whatever countries they lived in your grandparents and your parents you know whatever you know about them all right um well my grandmother on my father's side she was born in boston
so her parents i really i don't know where they were if they were from eastern europe somewhere um my grandfather my father's father he was born in lithuania in vilnius and um i think he came over here somewhere around 1918 um and he came over because he was going to be drafted into the lithuanian army and at that time jews that were drafted into the army in lithuania did not come back so he left the country with his brother and the interesting thing about his family or what his journey he came on a ship with his brother and his br um he was taken off
the ship in boston um because he had developed small parks parks on the ship um so they took him off the boat and brought him to the hospital my his brother was not allowed off the ship so his but brother could not disembark until they got to mexico so he ended up settling in mexico and um and they lost track of each other for 50 years but at that time that when 50 years passed he uh he and my grandmother and my two uncles were living in tucson arizona and my uncle went down to mexico and managed to track down my grandfather's brother and so
they got reunited after 50 years and it turns out that he has a huge family down in mexico and they really thrived um and a lot of them ended up settling in monterey and so we didn't have any contact with them until um several years ago there was a i think it was a jewish federation fundraiser in dallas and george w bush was the guest speaker and this young guy jaime karakowski um introduced them i'm not sure if it was federation but it was one of the big fundraisers in town and so we saw the picture in the um in the texas jewish post and
um and karakowski was my grandfather's original name and he he changed it to gordon when he came to this country but um so this this jaime karakowski still has the same name so somehow my um my husband was able to track down his contact information so we contacted him and it turns out that that was my grandfather's brother's family so and and a bunch of the young ones live in houston now including timing so you know we've talked and um and you know exchanged pictures and they their families just huge so at some point when this pandemic is over i want to go to houston
and meet up with them so yeah that turned out to be a real positive story are there still quite a few still living in mexico are they spread out at this point they're um i think our generation i think is in monterrey uh as far as i know at least taimi's jaime's parents from monterey but the kids most of the kids are living in houston and they all have kids so it's just a really big family so that's great because the rest of my my grandfather's family um his his father died before the uh world war ii and the mother and two of his brothers
i think were killed in the holocaust and um and he also had a sister as my grandfather's sister was married to a german a non-jewish german officer from world war one and they were living in germany and um so when all when the holocaust happened they fled with um with their daughter but they their son had been in a um you know a boarding school and so they paid someone to take the sun out and join up with and so this guy took a bunch of jewish um to a forest left them in the forest and they were all gunned down you know so that's
a sad part of the story but the positive part is that at least you know my grandfather's family continued on in mexico um so that that's my father's side my my father's mother you know she was born in boston and her um i think she had two or three sisters and one brother so they all grew up in the boston area and had their families in massachusetts so um oh and there's an interesting story with one of them one of the cousins um one of my father's cousins his his parents owned a like a diner right near mit in boston and um so the diner
had been there for years and years but then my fa you know the land would became so valuable and my cousin saw my father's cousin and his brother sold the land and they donated some of the money to mit so now there's a plaque up in one of the buildings in um you know my my cousin's father's name so that that's an interesting side thing yeah so marcia where did you grow up as a child and what was your childhood like in your neighborhood like and what did you like to do for fun what was your life like well um i was in well my
parents married in providence rhode island and um so i lived in providence my mother's family settled in um providence so that was i think my grandfather came here in 1904 and my grandmother came around 1918 somewhere around there and they were both they were from um belarus from the minsk area and anyway so um yeah i grew up in providence until i was 11 and um you know my my um family my mother's family was pretty close-knit um so when i lived there we saw a lot of of my family and my my father's parents lived in providence too so you know we were very
close with the and um you know we lived in a jewish area and i i love to roller skate so i used to roller skate all over the neighborhood you know people weren't so fearful back then right um and i have one brother um so that was my life there was pretty great and then we um we moved to massachusetts when i was 11. and um so we we we moved to lawrence massachusetts which was a big mill town back then and my father uh worked in men's clothing he had had a um business uh men's clothing manufacturing company in providence which unfortunately went under so he took a job with a different men's clothing company in lawrence and i spent my teenage years there and then i went to university connecticut um for college and i became a physical therapist and um so i did physical therapy in connecticut and then um in michigan for a couple of years and then i went back to graduate school at boston university and
i got an advanced degree in physical therapy with special specialty and teaching so when that was done i took a job down here in dallas at texas women's university teaching in their physical therapy program so that's what brought me to dallas yeah i want to back up just a minute though yeah now that was good i just want to ask you um if you can remember any organizations or affiliations that you and your family had growing up either in providence or in boston in the area you know what kind of things were they involved in and were you involved in growing up and even through
teenage in high school and college area years well my mother was very active as a volunteer with jewish organizations in providence um so she she was very very active in the jewish uh war veterans auxiliary and um i think there was another one it might have been her temple or her synagogue we were we belonged to temple death israel in providence that was a conservative synagogue and um i'm not sure you know my mother unfortunately died when i was 16. so you know my memories of well she did were a little limited but she did sing in the choir at her synagogue and so she was very involved um my father he he himself he was very quiet guys so he was never involved in organizations um well i i say that but later on he didn't kind of adopt a refugee family and that was very nice but mostly he didn't wasn't involved in in organizational work um but my mother was very involved and my grandparents you know my my mother's father had been president he was they were in an orthodox congregation when he was when
the kids were younger and he was president of his congregation so he he was very active um so i my mother instilled in me you know love for volunteering so when i was in high school um i was very involved in nft um the temple youth group and most of the guys i dated were from nifty and i i did bbyo for a while but i i like nifty better and um and i was also very i did a lot of volunteer work at um the cerebral pals cerebral palsy clinic in lawrence and that's you know how i for my love for physical therapy so
and i remember my mother was involved to the march of dimes and i remember going around you know collecting money going door-to-door collecting money with her um so yeah so we have a long history of volunteerism um so when you came to dallas what kind of things did you jump into what did you get involved in what were you interested in doing when you were a newcomer here well in boston i lived in boston for a few years before i moved here and you know so that i got involved with uh what was it called united jewish appeal up there that's what federation was called
so i i did i did get active with them and um helped out with the telethon and actually got to know um what's his name uh oh um never mind one of trump's big supporters um anyway never mind that um so when i came to dallas um let's see what did i get involved well i met my husband six weeks after i moved here and um so my family was amazed you know that i came to dallas this is my job i came to dallas to meet my new york jewish doctor yeah because he was he was an int i met him six weeks after
i moved he was an intern at presbyterian hospital and i was teaching at the um at the texas women's university building right behind presbyterian and uh so we met and you know that was it yeah so um yeah so we married uh i was about 15 months later yeah my family just could not believe it wow so um yeah so i got married and we joined um i i got an active and younger set from federation and um let's see what else did we join i know that's so long ago i i you know i don't i but i was active and younger said for
a while and then i could actually how did your husband come to pick dallas he um well he was actually born at fort hood his father was stationed in fort hood and um so he's actually a texan so when when he was a year old they were transferred back to new york and um his father worked for the army air force exchange and when he was so they lived in new york until he was 14 and then his father was transferred down here to the army air force exchange so he's he's been in dallas ever since then you know since he was 14. and um yeah so he was kind of they they you know they moved from a very jewish area in long island they moved down to oak cliff because that's where uh the emmy air force exchange is located so you know they went for a big jewish area to know you know almost no jews right the big culture shock that was in 67 and uh so that was difficult for him and you know they were kind of hidden jews because they didn't realize how far away they were from the jewish community so they they didn't really get active at all at that time but then they
got trent when gary was in college uh his parents got transferred to germany so they lived in munich for five years and um gary went over and spent some time over there and gary speaks fluent german so he he loved it he's one of the few jews that really loved germany and wonderful experience so um anyway uh so i got real active i got active in um younger set and in uh somewhat in the neighborhood and ncjw at that time and some in hadassah so i i did all the organization work back then and we got married rabbi klein from emmanuel married us um so
we stayed at emmanuel until the girls were bought in its fit and i was very active at them emmanuel and and during that time um i got active in city politics and um you know i re i worked on max goldblad's campaign for mayor and then we worked on that strauss's campaign and i got involved in the arts and um so i'm gonna say oh so i got you know i got to be on the board of the dallas chamber orchestra and and served as president for two and then um my councilman max max wells appointed me to the cultural affairs commission when it split
off in the parks board so i did i was on cultural affairs for about six years and loved every minute of it just loved it loved love and you know got to know everybody in the arts community and i was on cultural fears when the myerson opens i got to go the opening got to go when um the organ was uh dedicated and got to go in the the queen of england was here they did a concert it was it was just a really phenomenal time i loved it a lot of jewish women in dallas i well you know from my talk before quite a
few jewish women got very involved in the cultural arts departments in all different uh sitting on different boards but it was we were quite a force to be reckoned with i think quite a force yes the one um i was trying to think after i heard you talk um i was trying to remember the name of the lady um who who was the primary fundraiser for the meyerson and um she was jewish and i can't remember her name but i'll look it up for you yeah boy was she a fort yeah thank you i would like to know that's driving me nuts um i think
she and her husband ended up moving to san diego after that but boy she was terrific so i'm curious what are your girls doing now your your what is your family doing uh let's see you know we're at shalom we moved to shalom after um after we left emmanuel we moved to shalom and um so let's see heather is heather went she went to ut and she went on the birthright trip from from um hillel down there and i met her husband on the birthright trip and yeah perfect yeah it's really perfect and yeah you know they've they've um videoed heather and michael talking about
their experience down there and um so yeah so they met on that trip and heather was very active with the hillel at ut and um and now she's they lit her husband uh michael's wonderful guy he he's now a physician and heather got her phd in psychology so she's uh in private practice psychologists and michael is um he is specialized in geriatrics so now he's medical director he works for a company that contracts with with uh nursing homes so he works at uh he's medical director at several nursing homes and uh he works with residents at the medical school down there so oh they are
you know they're doing wonderful and i'm waiting for grandchildren i've been waiting i'm sure it'll happen soon well we'll see you know when it happens it'll be great yeah so my other daughter melissa is um she's still single she went to texas state and um so she she did a couple of she mentioned in english and minor in political communication she did a couple of internships in washington for pete's session which we were very very grateful to him for that so she that was a great experience um so she ended up she she had a little more difficulty figuring out what she wants to do
um but now uh so she she worked at several different jobs and her last job was at childress fabrics and you know she ended up doing a lot of the computer work and purchasing and you know some accounting and discovered she has the love of accounting so now she's taking virtual courses at richland to um become an accountant um and she just got certified in quickbooks so you know so she's gonna take some more courses and then you know hopefully she'll get a job in accounting she seems to really love it it's like this is great heather it's not something i want to do i
mean melissa this is great i i'm really happy for that she's found something she loves so speaking of speaking of something you love um tell us about a project or some type of a work work uh work order or something that you have worked on that you're very proud of well i i'm very proud of my work on cultural affairs i i did at that time i chaired the long-range planning committee so we came up with a long-range plan for cultural arts at that time and so i was proud of that and out of that that was um back in 92 you know the city
was planning a huge commemoration of um columbus discovering america the 500th anniversary so i thought well gee we gotta we ought to commemorate you know the jews that were expelled from spain at the same time so i ended up sharing this project with jcrc co-chairing it my co-chair was a lady from mexico who um had been raised christian and discovered her jewish roots so she was my co-chair so we put on on a year-long um you know uh schedule of events commemorating the jews um being expelled from spain and the the most exciting part of that is that over the course of the year um
the jewish community was able to identify about a thousand sephardic jews in town that actually came out of the woodwork and you know at that time they said well marsha we didn't think anyone wanted us um i guess the ashkenazi jews had not been so welcoming so you know i was i was very very proud of that really proud and um i would have continued on with jcrc but at that point my husband was having a little bit of difficulty he had to close closes program because crazy reason so um i i at that point i had to go back to work so oh i
had to quit doing volunteer work for a little while but got back to it and um so let me think what else happened that was 92 oh yeah and then so then we moved over to i was very active at emmanuel and and she had a few projects over there and um so coming over to shalom you know i i got involved and and not sharing anything but just you know helping out and um and i did chair you know mahjong tournament and i did share a few things and i you know i started working in the gift shop um and you know really enjoyed
the gift shop and um they asked me if i would be the director for the gift shop so i've been director of the gift shop for um this about three and a half years now and it's a great gift shop by the way oh thanks it's wonderful thanks well we come up first if if you google judaica in dallas we come up first we worked on that so um yeah and then you know we just had a really great hanukkah boutique it was very exciting i want to ask you now um this is one of my favorite questions for people who have lived here a
long time but are not from here when you first came to dallas what do you think the city was like versus what is it like now in your opinion um well when i first came there was a lot from you know native texans there was a lot of resistance to uh northerners coming to dallas so you know at first i felt a lot of yankee go home kind of um attitude um yeah it was it was an adjustment for me coming you know i lived in boston before i moved here and and i love boston i love that city you know i was all over
the place and doing something all the time and um you know but i hated winter one of the reasons i came i hated winter and we'd had the big chill of 80 just before i came um you know but i i did i did miss i did miss some the people and and there was just so much to do up there and so beautiful the beach and the mountains oh gorgeous so it was an adjustment for me to get used to being in in texas i think one of the reasons i got involved in the arts is because i in boston i love the arts
i love there was so much going on all the time and you know i had seasons tickets to the ballet and i went to see you know plays all the and you know boston was such an exciting city so i you know i got involved in the arts here because i i really wanted to see it develop more and become more like boston you know more more of a cultural center and you know i think annette strauss when she was mayor that was you know that was one of her main goals is to develop the culture more so you know so i had this vision
for downtown dallas more thriving cultural area and um i mean some of that has happened i mean it's you know it's uh some things like when they built the mars and they cut out they were supposed to have like a street area with cafes and shops and you know musicians and everything and they cut that out when they had to cut their budget and i thought i thought that was um not a good thing but anyway so you know i mean some of it has come to fruition and you know uh the arts district is nice and the clyde warren park is tremendous oh is
that terrific yes so yeah yeah so they made some strides in the arboretum you know gary and i went to um one of the major fundraisers for the arboretum um had a uh invited all the residents and medical people to come to the arboretum one day and um and that was before it is what it is now and so he talked about his vision and and what he wanted to see for the future and you know so the arboretum is i'm sure it's going way beyond his vision it's so beautiful so so that's a really nice thing you know i've been in dallas 40 years
met my husband here had my girls here you know it's um what positive life what positive things have you seen happen with the specifically the jewish community here well it's grown it's certainly grown quite a bit yeah i mean the uh the challenge uh you know it's certainly a challenge now because so many people are moved have moved north and um and so many young people are not joining um congregations so but so i think that's you know that is an ongoing challenge um you know jcc is wonderful um yeah i was very active with jcc too oh in fact i started cultural arts at
jcc oh yeah i almost forgot about that i started cultural arts and um so that was back when i was doing cultural affairs i wasn't working during that time so um you know with the cultural arts you know we that's when they started having plays we had and the um art festival they had every fall and on the film festival that's still going all of that came out of the cultural arts so that was something else that was i was them very feel very good about you really left your mark here that's for sure yeah so i have one more i have a concluding question
and that is anything else that you would like to tell us about that we haven't talked about anything that you're really proud of or anything that you've accomplished that you would like to uh add to this interview wow well my husband and i we're going to celebrate our 39th anniversary so that's something that's good thank you that's a real good thing yeah i've made a lot of friends and um yeah i i think i've left my footprint um yeah yeah it's been good it's been good for sure um i think i've told you the main things i'm proud of i think having my girls the
thing i'm most proud of but you know all of the you know those projects i did and now the the shop yeah i'm very proud of doing those things yeah i love you know i love being involved and i think i'll always be involved and heather you know now is um my daughter that's he she and her husband are in austin and um so she is involved with shalom dallas and she's on the jfs um executive board or one of the boards for the jfs down there so i'm very proud of that too like my legacy continues so yeah well thank you so much for
being with us today marcia this was fun this is great we appreciate it and keep on doing all the wonderful work that you've been doing oh thanks thanks and i i think after the pandemic i'll join the historical society too really love what you do thank you i'll have a wonderful hanukkah and we'll see you soon thank you so much joe sure all right bye-bye you