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marcia 1945 dallas texas let's go back what do you remember when you're just a little girl i think we had a nice family life my grandmother came to live with my parents and myself when i was three when my grandfather died and she lived with my family for the rest of her life she died in 1972 and i had already married and moved away so i always told people i had two mothers tell me about your parents what'd your dad do for a living my dad had a service station guest station and then he added a little building and sold auto parts and my mother worked with him and when i was in high school he got colon cancer and he was out for a while and my mother just took over and took over the business and went down every day wow was your dad in the service no he had a bad knee and they wouldn't take him okay okay because it was around world war ii time oh yeah my dad was born in 1916 and my mother in 1917.
so the war did affect your family i'm sure it did yeah we used to joke about the depression closet well that was before the war but um yeah were they saved like paper goods and my mother even until the end of her life had a stack of paper goods yeah yeah now your grandparents do you remember them at all my grandfather died when i was three and his name was goodman and he was the brother of simon goodman from the goodman produce i have a picture of my grandfather with a truck with the sides out and he was selling fruits and vegetables off of the
back of the truck and that's kind of how they got started now were they born in this country your ground no no where did they come from it's kind of a funny story my grandmother always said she came from poland but when she met my husband she told him she was from lithuania so she's from a part of the world that changed hands a lot yeah and so she just said poland did they ever talk about the journey coming here no she wouldn't talk about it all right what about your other grandparents the other grandparents that grandfather died before i was born and i believe
i'm named after him his name was morris and and so and i'm also named for another great grandparent named meishi so i don't know where they got the marsha but anyway um and i'm not exactly sure what he did but i think he was fairly well to maybe not well to do but comfortable and they lived in a big two-story house and when i was a little child my parents moved into this house across the street from where my gran that other grandmother was living what did you do for fun when you were little just playing outside you know there were people on our street
now when i was real little we moved to north dallas when i was eight when i was eight and so there were people around you know kids my age and we'd ride bikes my i love to read i'm a real nerd so um we didn't have a library back in the day my parents lived near preston and royal and um so they would bring a bookmobile once a week i don't know if you remember a bookmobile and i'd ride my bike over to the bookmobile and i had a basket filled my basket with books it was um a truck that you could step into and
it had shelves and it was like a little library right it was a librarian wheels but yeah yeah that was that was very good it was very cool you know you were born in dallas how has it changed you've noticed changes oh my goodness well i mean there's so many more people and the traffic and it's um much more diverse i mean it's something that you know we didn't know about when i was kids and where did you go to uh elementary school i the first school i went to was called colonial in south dallas and that school was so old but my dad had
gone there as a child and it's still i don't know if it's the building is still there i don't know if it's still in use but it's pretty old and then i went to daily school which is over on royal lane and duly um when i first went there in the third grade it was prefabs those little buildings that they just brought over and um we used to have lunch in the in the classroom and we had to order milk the day before and they'd bring you know then they'd bring this cart you know case with the milk in it and pass it out and
we'd have lunch in the room yeah yeah when you were a teenager it was a turbulent time in the country vietnam war was just starting to get active do you remember that time at all i was just starting college i was a freshman in college the day that jfk was shot and my mother actually was at the parade and saw him before it happened but um the war you know the protesting and stuff didn't really start for me that i you know was in my awareness until after that yeah what college you go to i went to newcomb college it's part of tulane university and
do you remember any of the protesting when you were in college very little at not not at two lane very little one of the things about tulane that i was really proud of when i went there is that especially with newcomb they had to bring a lawsuit to integrate it because and the the first african-american student was admitted my year 1963 and they had to go to court to break the whatever the contract was that set up the college because uh the newcomb family had set it up for white young women do you remember people talking about that on campus obviously it was a big
deal no it really wasn't it really wasn't it was just you know this is the right thing to do and it just nobody nobody complained about it and the next year there were more students than that you know yeah so and new orleans is very mixed i don't know if you've ever been there but it's a very mixed community yeah and even back then it was now when you were in college did what were your aspirations what were you looking to do when you uh when you grew up so does when i grew up you know it's funny i i didn't really know i like
biology i'm a biology major and um i was in a program to encourage us to go and get a doctoral degree and so um i applied to graduate school and went to graduate school in biology but didn't finish my phd in biology years later when my kids were half grown i went back to graduate school and got a phd in family therapy but i only finished that in 1998. now why was it why did you stop why did you stop doing um i back in the day and i've heard this from other women there was kind of um a roadblock for women in higher education and i'm not talking about bachelor's level i'm talking about master's and phd level there was another woman in my program at i was at the university of miami and she had gotten into the doctoral so that meant she'd finished her master's but she didn't finish her phd and i think i think it was i think it was just wrong that they did not support her and get her through
the program there was a lot of discrimination against women in those days i have another friend who's quite brilliant she was a summa laude from my college which is you know she was the top one of the top four students and um she didn't finish her phd until later years like i did so and she was she was in a different college so after college what did you do um i worked for a year in a medical research lab and i had met my soon-to-be husband and so um he's a you're younger than i am so i worked for a year in the medical lab
and then we got married and where did you get married here at church israel here in dallas and tell me your involvement with the jewish community here in dallas um when i moved back to dallas was 79 i'd been away and um we joined the temple which was across the street at temple shalom and my mother said you're not going to you're not going to go to sheriff and i said no i didn't you know i didn't grow up there i actually i grew up at tiffareth and um had a a comfort i was in a confirmation class at deferreth and so my grandmother was
very active into ferris she has and her family helped start to fairtrade israel and so they were very active and that was kind of my role model so when i came back i joined the temple and sisterhood and that and then i had a friend asked me to join ort i don't know if anybody's mentioned oort to you it stands for organization for rehabilitation through training and it raises money for vocational training schools and my mother-in-law had gotten active in it and so because of her i thought well this is something worthwhile and so i went and um and i joined and in about six
months i was president but um i helped raise a lot of money and spent many many hours doing projects for them yeah yeah now were you a stay-at-home mom raising your three children yeah except for ort okay so you did not have you you were i didn't work now i didn't work after we moved to dallas now you adopted two children was like a tough process back in the day it was pretty difficult when i the first child was adopted when we were living in san francisco and people were not having babies if they didn't want to so having a you know finding a baby
and so my my ex-husband um is an anesthesiologist and he met all the obstetrician gynecology you know gynecologists and at the time it was kind of interesting they had like some kind of work stoppage because of malpractice insurance getting so extremely expensive and so all the babies that were being born were at the hospital the san francisco hospital where he was working and so he met all the docs and he asked everybody and so when the duck said yes he's got somebody who hasn't gonna have a child and so we got to have that was our first one and then the second one we were
in el paso that's where he did his residency and um one of the one of the other residents had a wife who was a social worker and she worked for the lutheran social services so we signed up with them to adopt a child and the funny part of the story was that they said um that this child's mother had asked for jewish family at the lutheran social services so that's why we got our second child did you ever find out why yeah we actually when when that son turned 21 his biological mother contacted us through the agency and i gave him the letter and i
said because he always talked about it and i said this is great and we always were supportive and um so anyway he got in touch with her we've met her i've been you know a number of different occasions and so i think their family had a therapist who was a jewish person and that's why and she had the idea that jewish families were stable yeah which is what she was looking for yeah no very good and then your third child was natural right and a surprise a surprise right um now you said you were living in san francisco was that your husband was working out
he was um he was in he was in the military okay so this was during vietnam and so his last year of of medical school he joined the special program so that he could finish his training and delay service so he did his internship in san antonio and then we moved to san francisco for three years and we lived on the presidio which is was gorgeous it was so so fun and um that's where we adopted our first child and then we went then he had three years payback so we went from san francisco to el paso which is like the difference is amazing i
said we went down there and said they put jalapenos on their pizza was there an invention that came along in your lifetime oh my gosh of course the computer and the internet wow amazing changed everything absolutely when i graduated from college my parents took me and bought me a car that i was supposed to pay pay on that never happened yeah what kind of car was that it was a chevy impala yeah it was a very nice car what was the music when you were a kid in high school that you guys used to like oh you know rock and roll and i i wasn't
an elvis fan so not that but you know a lot of other stuff one of my favorites was from the 50s and i i've seen the guy lately called shanana and it's little darling and that was just a fun song yeah were there any movies back then that you remember when you were young the stars back then i remember going to see giant and that was phenomenal yeah it was just and i was really young probably too young to understand it very well yeah and who did that star uh liz taylor and and james dean and rock hudson was there something on the national scene
that really affected you you could say i know exactly where i was the moment it happened of course when kennedy was killed i remember coming out of lunch and somebody's saying the president's been shot the president's been shot and it was like devastating i mean found my friends and we just went and hung out together and shook our heads in disbelief mainly you and your husband have the three children and you have a total of six grandkids natural step grandkids and whatnot right what advice does grandma have for the next generation be patient that's great advice well thanks for doing this today you're welcome you
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