Marty Mintz
Marty Mintz was born in Brooklyn, New York, in 1944, and spent his early childhood on New Lots Avenue, living above a cleaning store and playing kick-the-can in the alley with neighborhood friends. His father was a traveling salesman in the millinery trade, and his mother was a stay-at-home mom. His family had deep ties to New York's garment industry and its labor movement, including grandparents who worked in a ladies' belt factory and were part of the social reforms of the 1930s. His grandparents came to America from Russia, and one grandmother read the Yiddish newspaper the Forward. Marty attended Brooklyn Technical High School, commuting two hours each way by subway, and when his father died during his senior year he went to work as a junior draftsman.
Marty attended night school for many years, eventually earning his bachelor's degree in sociology in 1976. He met his wife, Barbara, at Queens College evening school, and the couple married two years later, settling first in Flushing and then on eastern Long Island, where they raised two sons. When the local economy soured in the mid-1970s, Marty answered an advertisement and moved the family to Monroe, Louisiana, in 1978, where they found a warm, small Jewish community. About a year and a half later, opportunity drew them to Dallas, and they made their home in Richardson. Marty spent his career in architectural and structural engineering, working his way up to associate at the firm HKS before being laid off during the 2008-2009 downturn and moving into retirement.
In Dallas, Marty and Barbara became active members of Temple Shalom, teaching Sunday school and adult B'nai Mitzvah classes for many years. Barbara served twice as sisterhood president and sat twice on the national board of the Union for Reform Judaism, while Marty served on committees, the board, and in the brotherhood. He was the first adult advisor to the Kosher Kids Cafe and served on the board of the early Dallas Jewish coalition for the homeless that helped create the Vogel Alcove day care center for homeless families, where he continued to volunteer. Barbara lived with breast cancer for 22 years and died after 40 years of marriage. With encouragement from Rabbi Robert Jackowski, Marty later joined Temple Emanu-El, remarried, and remained active in community life. His advice to his four grandchildren is simple: be a mensch.
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we got pretty active in the community both of us that we both taught sunday school at Temple Shalom we droid Temple Shalom remembers it for 30 years until she passed away now his brother the president I served on the board we did every committee there was and we taught Sunday school we taught the adult burn a Bar Mitzvah for many years and very very attached and she was on the National Board of wr1 Reform Judaism twice and hope to help you seen the Jewish community grow in the film fantastically it's a very closely knit vibrant jewish community to those that want it to be right
those that are affiliated right and they take care of their own they are wonderful and now with my oldest son living in user now fo since 1990 but used in Jewish communities even mortal totally closely knit in dallas in a very vibrant way and they're part of that jewish can his I'm very proud of that but the Dallas Houston has been very good to us would you are the JCC in the kids played sports this was our home Sunday Wednesday Thursday had Sunday School in religious school with Shalom between the bottles were active at both places I got active here on committees some of Ogle
may she rest in peace hooked me in and I could never say no to her and I was the first adult advisor to the kosher Kids Cafe that was here down the hall every Sunday morning i got a Rifleman's kosher deli and pick up the kosher meat that the kids would make sandwiches for on sale and the proceeds went to the tween group and a tween group used out for their program so we got really active and it was wonderful so I volunteered the vocal alcove I was on the board with some of the original Dallas Jewish coalition for the homeless in 1975 it was
task forces and we decided from the task force to do something for the homeless and create a homeless family day care center because if you homeless you didn't have an address you couldn't put your children in daycare how could you get a job it was a vicious circle well the Dallas George Coalition had the foresight to do something about it and now to Vogel alcove has over 150 children and a daycare center with from six months to pre-k thriving and that's why I volunteered two days a week bharti 1944 brooklyn new york yeah let's go back tell me about when you were just a little
boy who lived on new lots Avenue over a cleaning store and was nice we played in the alley we play kick-the-can and stuff like that walk to school with our friends a different world and all the stores are on the lots Avenue the food store we go get some green peas off the food stand and taking a thing munch on those and the butcher with day at a candy store at a toy store right along then that was our little scuffle but your parents did my father was a millinery said with a lady's hat each sold millinery novelties it was traveling salesman my mom was
a stay-at-home mom and do you remember your records at all sure do yeah but my grandfather lived not too far away I used to walk there with my brother on Sundays with breakfast and my grandmother interesting their grandparents on my mother's side were divorced had they worked in the ladies belt factory a garment workers union and they each met other people got the voice and my grandmother moved to California with her new husband and my grandfather stay here but we still were untouched and does she would come back to New York and didn't stay with us but she could not read all right but she
could count money like anything she worked in a lady's belt factor that's been reader right before she was from Russia okay Russia they came when my parents were born in nineteen sixty 1917 here in America so they were here before them so but she was feisty at that time they went through that whole social reforms back in the 30s right and they were very part of that in the garment workers you have a special newspaper she was able oh well my other grandmother on am inside she read the forwards there was a Jewish newspaper in Yiddish i believe it was written in yiddish of world
events and current events and locally but a very big paper in new york city and i remember on shabbos and they'd wash the floor but the newspapers down i could understand that how they would the newsprint would keep the floor clean she was a dressmaker she was a widow my father was of his father died when he was only about twelve and they went to some very odd time that my grandmother had a sorry machine in the house and I remember it was a treadle machine I wish we kept it high school I actually went to Brooklyn Technical High School and was a special high
school and what you might call a magnet high school here but we lived in Queens and you have to take an exam to get in and it was a technical school math science and engineering and I traveled two hours each way on the subway which to this day I feel was a terrible mistake because was an all-boys high school totally depart me in my high school socialization but it gave me a career yeah because my father died when I was a senior and I had to go out and work so I thought as a junior draftsman that I had learned a book on tech Wow
so after high school then I went to work he went right and I went to night school I went to night school for 14 years I was a slow load got married after that had two kids and still went to college and finally in 1976 I got my bachelor's degree wow those kids were there but it was nice but it wasn't an engineering or architecture I started out in that and changed the sociology but he never made my career sociology that but it was good in them that helped me get along get along with people now where did you meet your wife at Queens College
in evening school queens college she was 18 and I was 19 and we've got married two years later and then words you guys settled on we settled in flushing had an apartment of flushing and traveled on the subway to work and then when my oldest son was born we bought a house on eastern Long Island and moved out to Long Island and raised the kids and will now and until the economy soured so she was a stay-at-home mom I worked on long on had gotten the job on long on as it production draftsman and structural engineering office going to school at night now what year
was this oh goodness my son was born 1969 1969 I got a job on Long Island look for a wonderful small consulting engineer was family years ago yet we would became family and they treated you like family was so different the economy was so different and she was a stay-at-home mom and I was a dress man i was the production draftsman for structural engineering and I was going for school for architecture new york tech on Long Island and they would let me take classes classes that woman giving it a night they let me take the structural design class during the day and come from the
office go to school and come back through a wonderful to me and then whenever it's no I had a drawing board and home I would take work home and work at home before the telecommunications before computers I drew on the drawing board at home in a spare bedroom while we were in three feet of snow I got stuck but then the economy salad and it was in 1976 I was finally I out of work was out of work for six months but I graduated and tried to find the job and Baba went back to work and I was mr. mom for six months well wasn't what did she do she always was works for dentists and she managed a dental practice she was the woman you paid upfront and then she stayed working and then when I finally found a job it wasn't very well paid and we had some tough times but we did it and what brought you to that we went y mano Louisiana news data low now newspaper had an ad come work in the Sun Belt structural production man needed and at that time baba typed my resume and we joked about it Louisiana didn't say where I would they come work in a
land of hunting and fishing was a come on hunter fishy but they're asking for structural production guy let's give it a shot we're on the Bulls about took us and the next week a headhunter call me in the following week on monroe louisiana phone interview and is it a little bit of a culture shock yes and no is a wonderful jewish community very small my wife wasn't moving unless there was a temple it was reform synagogue one of the oldest synagogues they just gotten around by again and she wasn't moving unless there was a synagogue that a kid could stay Jewish and I totally understood
that but I just wanted I work at the produc it was an architectural engineering firm that was doing work in the Sun Belt mostly shopping malls and dillards department stores just growing out of Little Rock so we went for the interview and we didn't talk to each other on the way back I she was not moving tomorrow I'm not moving we put an ad in the paper luz de the first people of cave look at the house bought the house and it was meant to be and we moved to mono Louisiana 1978 it was a wonderful office everybody was transplanted because the sun belt was
booming long on was an economic disaster every New York was that the city had gone bankrupt it filtered out all the municipalities everybody was struggling it was in 1976 that that happened and I had just graduated tried to get a job in in behavioral science i changed my my man might degree to sociology in at that time was go personal relations not human it was very difficult to get a job I went back to work for a friend who had a contracting business along now and then this came up with yet in the paper I answered yet no behold 1978 were in monroe louisiana not
louisiana it was louisiana you had two sons and they were very flexible there were nine and seven and so it was an easy move for them for them not for my wife yeah yeah everybody only ones in the family that left yeah yeah and tim was very supportive my father were very close with said you have to go he can make live in fear family my mother said the same thing my mother was a widow and she had be married and her husband passed away and she was raising three kids are around again in a new family but she said go because i was very
attached to family both of us or we did now you had a brother is all the brothers four years older than me when I very close have a total one biological brother two stepbrothers one stepson stepsis now you're in Louisiana gianna working for you at jons near rivers and web architects and engineers and how long did you guys stay there a year and a half kids are at henrys Jacobs Union camp in the Louisiana district they went away to camp we went to Dallas for fun I open the Yellow Pages it was it was boom town here in Dallas called something my résumé de next
week we were back in dallas again for an interview put a house up for sale while the kids were in camp i came home from camp the houses for sale moving oh they didn't want to go to give any more affected better camp afraid you move about them towards white up in Dallas we mind up in richardson was a very difficult move monro they welcomed us with open on the jewish community was just delighted to have a new young family and we were raised conservative so we were big shots in the reform because the only temple was reformed so we could teach Hebrew with sunday
school and we got dope right in came to Dallas and we were little fish in a big pond they didn't but we dried temple shalom and they welcomed us and we started teaching sunday school right away put the kids in sunday school and became part of the jewish community in dallas the job would didn't work out very well and we're very unhappy you could walk across the street and get a job in that business at the time in architectural engineering and i was very fortunate to be blessed and was able to always have a living until the economy salad here when the first one is
the real estate past 90 was the oil and gas bust and real estate and everything in first architects and engineers were the last to feel an economic turndown in the last to recover I was out of work again and I did a lot of things I did contractor have to get at a house barber was working she work soon as we got back to Dallas she couldn't stay at home here in Dallas and she worked for dentists and we made a go and the jewish committee was very supportive and totally barbara got pretty active in the community unit all of us that we was at
happiest time in your life mmm i guess in the 80s when we were productively working the kindle growing we both had decent jobs were active in the temple we were making all kinds of new friends and new acquaintances and money but Dallas Jewish culture was very different from the conservator of New York culture were raised and but there was that common threat of Judaism that bound you very tightly together custom the boys traveling they traveled on the Blumenthal basketball league here at the JCC and they would travel to Memphis they would travel to to Phoenix they traveled to Atlanta included JCC they would come back
to know that we had Shabbat in Memphis just like we have in Dallas they do the same things we do they realized that the Jewish time was always there and they stay Jewish the unabomber were married for 40 40 years she is the way she got diagnosed with breast cancer in 1984 and she lived with that for 22 years she survived thanks to some wonderful doctors here in Dallas and and her her main attitude and activity never allowed her to sit back and say why me we stayed active she was sister president twice at shalom she taught adults and kids all that time she worked
full-time and then she was on the national board at wr1 reform judaism twice and i was very active in brotherhood and temple and teaching in committees and we just had a very active life and in between we went to the doctor and now another barber is come into your life which has just gotta been so good to me have a very strongly one with joke i bought the one above a two and when barber passed away I just wanted to die and life was over Robert jackowski may he rest in peace he was my soul we were very close barbara was very close with him
because he was Union reform do dis district was our leading Rab buying she did a lot of program with Jake and he said to me you're very selfish if you want to die you have family and children and people that need you how could you do that and he said me straighten the best thing he did for me you have to work through your grief and God helps you've got God is wonderful i have a very strong faith in god and he brought me another boy so when that time i had to search real hard it was very difficult to go to temple without her
what was very active and at that time we had a rabbi change and I was on the search committee at Temple Shalom when I was active in many committees and that was the most difficult committee had ever served on a temple choosing a new rapper and it came to pass that it just wasn't right for me and so I was still very very close about by lying david lion who was rabbi at beth israel in houston as it turns out that's when my son and his wife and children belong I kids the grad sounds good at a Jewish day school beth israel and i spoke
with david cuz she's always our rabbi he he came and he was no longer to Rabbi Hillel my father's funeral he came and officiated ababbas funeral with Rabbi Paley and a few other allies and I told him I really don't need to belong any place and he said no you need a spiritual thought he knew me so I joined I went to temple emanuel rabbi david stern welcomed me with open arms that david lyon called by bystanders friend rabbi stone came and welcome me when I came to join and I became very active the temple manual and I'm on the board of temple emanuel I
worked for a wonderful architectural engineering firm here in Dallas biggest in Texas HKS and another economic turndown 2008-2009 well I worked my way up to an associate in the firm when I had a very wonderful position in the structural engineering group but we downsized a half the staff in 1970 and 2008-2009 I was 64 and a half baba was gone I was on my own I was laid off again HKS was wonderful to me though and I'm still very close with people over there I mean every Wednesday with friends from HK as they come to lunch at my house we do bible study all the
New Testament they're good Christians they believe in the value system so what difference to make it they believe in Jesus rest of one God yeah and the value system heaven I still have lunch with the CEO and it was a good place to retire from I had a 401k and I was able to get as a surviving spouse keep my social security intact and take barbers here and at 66 I let blog with social security guy and I took mine in full source or a full age so I took my full security and my retirement funds and just enjoying my retirement I volunteer very heavily
now in your lifetime you've lived through so many momentous occasions because there's something that really affected you that you really took notice of on the national scene Nixon and Watergate and can the assassination of Kennedy I wasn't able to both the Kennedy because it was the voting age was 21 at the time right when I turned 18 I got my driver's license but I couldn't vote but Kennedy was and then the Watergate with Nixon resigning there's suddenly awakening of politics and what really goes on and I tell you we went through the third row and 60s I couldn't go to woodstock because i had a
six-month-old son my brother went Woodstock and blah burning and I saw the change of the whole variety take place I was married at 21 what the hell did I know about the life I had a wife and and three years later had a kid and I was working and all the other people around me were or demonstrating for social issues and I had to make a living so I couldn't do that but my heart was there and the draft the Vietnam Vietnam was a terrible terrible I had a student deferment I was able to get a student deferment while going to night school because my
draft would have a very good pool of resources then my wife became pregnant and I had I had a 28 yeah a child so I escaped the horror of Vietnam and that was when you asked about we went through the turbulence 60s there's a homogeneous matic family aligning with all of the social issues and i will say i strongly feel how our fabric of society change so terribly there was a rip and the social fat because it feels good do it and latching the the pill change everything in social morality I feel because the danger the stigma becoming pregnant was no longer and so suddenly
it was you can enjoy whatever you love what Mary's were going to enjoy the whole moral fiber now I'm not saying I disagreed with that right but but it changed the whole outlook on social values of family but there again comes a Jewish values and jewish malls and the Old Testament well that leads me into you have two kids four grandkids two boys since when girls what advice does grandpa want to leave to those grandkids in the next generation be a mensch that's great hey just be be nice when my kids were teenage I was going to get them license plate be nice and i
braised my boys and I told them to be a mention i'm very proud of them because they are Mitch and they're doing good the raising beautiful Jewish family with the values and malls that was instilled in me that I've given to them they lost their mother they know the value of family just be a mensch if everybody treated other people the way they wanted to be treated you did a great job today man this is very good thanks for doing this thank you