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okay good morning no and you are I am Orion is Wilson Dennis Texas today is May 18th 2015 very good let's start by if you would tell us where did your family come from prior to settling in South Africa or whatever you know about them my correct is my great-grandparents on my father's side were from Latvia on my mom's side from Poland my mom's mum during World War one was petrified of the bombing as they lived in London and was sent away for a while and when she returned the same thing happened to her parents sent her to South Africa to a cousin she was
one of seven siblings and she was the only one who came and meet my grandfather in South Africa no my grandfather growing up this grandmother was the only one I really knew but all our family because of this on her side are from London excepting of course my mom persistent and rather were born in South Africa did you ever find out what happened to some of the rest of the family that did not come to South Africa oh yeah we had a lot of contact with them we still go back and see them master my granny's sisters are not alive anymore but the children are
on the grandchildren are so we keep up with certain ones did any others end up in South Africa know that you know no two of her sisters would come I'm not sure it was annually or or every second year to come and visit her and she would have a trip every year she would sail for six weeks it took six weeks to get from I think it must have been Cape Town no she did Port Elizabeth I'm not sure where and how the ship wind but it was six weeks to get see her family and I remember the Sunday the ship left all of us
first cousins were go to the ship to enjoy what was you know what was there and then we would run down the gangplank gangplank and wait that's some journey mm-hmm Wow tell us a little bit about your early beginnings in South Africa what life was like in your childhood maybe a couple of specific special memories very unique to South Africa pretty common but full of family and in our family where our cousins were our friends I lived in a small town in Port Elizabeth my mom's sister lived five houses up the road at one point my dad's wants us to live lived for hours up
the road so we saw those cousins every day and Friday nights were always at somebody's house with all the families so there were just a lot of us all the public holidays we would go on picnics just around the coast because I lived on the coast so they would drive to a little spot and pop all the cause of myth a little cover up over the cause and we would swim and play in and eat and it was wonderful really wonderful what about Jewish memories gosh my family was so involved both my parents cheered just about every major organization in our hometown my dad was
one of the founding members of the first Jewish day school there he was chair of what is al gets a federation my mom was president of pizza which was the woman's International Zionist Organization both in our town and then in the province that we lived in and remember clearly her being selected as one of the delegates to go to Israel on a trip and from then on she always said we are we are going there one day to live or did it today yeah well how did her dream pan out oh they went not initially my youngest I went on what is called my horn
where she went for a year to Israel she met her husband do this ray so after her college days she moved there married him and has been there ever since my older sister maybe a couple years later went with her family to live there and eventually my parents made the decision to go and be with some of the family and at least be around grandchildren and went to live there about thirty years ago so they it was a great move for them they lived in a little town called far Saba very anglicized walking distance to everything it was it was a fantastic life for them
so through the years how often have you been able to go there and visit one say yes nice twice together right now my mom was aiding a little son at least twice a year my dad passed away about seven years ago just depends they used to come here they used to come you know we used to bring them every young right so they went that way so how did you first of all tell us a little bit about high school and beyond and how you met your husband I just remember being friends in in the class and I remember being very active in sports Jewishly
we have belonged to will I belong to have won him the Jewish youth movement went to shul in Crete we kid with my dad Friday night was Saturday morning a very Jewish enough I'm very protected in South Africa but it was great it was really great I went to university in Johannesburg which was one of the two only english-speaking universities at the time that's where I met Hilton he was studying the industry there was doing a Bachelor of music and from the first day we met we he can't see each other that was it so how many years did he have to complete his dentistry
degree they did about five and a half years and I had graduated six months before him cuz man was kind of like a master's program and we got married three days after he graduated or the week after and we lived three days later we in South Africa we went to move to London it was reciprocity and was she still is today between dentists in South African in England so he could practice so we went with a bunch of friends and which was amazing I mean he practiced for six weeks and then it would take a trip every you know every six weeks to some place
in Europe or Cornwall or Devon was great at that time were you planning are you and your friends planning on staying in London in England no Hilton had always wanted to specialise and he applied to period programs in the States because the forefathers of Perea of course came from yet and fortunately got into tux in Boston so we went to Boston for four years and and then he hated the weather they hated the winters and looked for a job elsewhere and there was one available of banal which was very lucky so he moved to Dallas what year was this about 1979 when we came to
dance did you have any children at the time yet yes we had two kids born in Boston we knew of South Africans here we didn't know anybody but I came down alone one was Beverly Lewin I came down and stayed with her and we rent I rented an apartment in the same lot of Flint's that she the apartments that she was in and we just made a lot of people as we stayed here longer and longer where did your kids where did you enroll them in school where were they so chapter Hilton was on the first board I think of Solomon Schechter yeah we used
to go to sheriff so the wind through ship done till 8th grade and our two girls went on to green hill after their house some lift instead of great in winter public school so you made the decision to come here where the weather is warmer and different from Boston how is life what was it like here when you first got here what type of welcome did you get a culture shock for me very conservative not particularly interesting but honestly there were times of a flood there were terms are not fly home after being on a trip and look outside and think oh my gosh it's
just loving yeah it's totally flat and the Easter it's been a flower back I love it I love the open spaces it's grown tremendously obviously but it's peaceful I love it I love the people here so you had a good welcoming you think evolution in the beginning in actually the South African community really formed a huge bond so you know they were friendly with a bunch of South Africans and still are and our kids grew up and they became part of our family yes we branched out to we've met a lot of people have you gotten involved in anything in this city itself besides Jewish
activities anything civic wise or has Hylton no not really for me is very involved in organized industry he's growing up the rings he has being president of the Dallas County Dental Society and the Texas Dental Association and currently is actually comparing to be president of the American Association well wondered yeah and what about you did you find employment here did you look for anything or just basically settle in raise the family a rest the family I've walked on Minnie's office for 20-25 years so I'm responsible for keeping accounting in order behind every good dentist doses wife yeah that's good wonderful would you say that you
brought any cultural non activities but things ideas projects with you from South Africa that you carry on here in Dallas [Music] really just the traditional Jewish experiences that we had growing up we both have very strong Jewish backgrounds foods of course I mean we have typical foods that are sometimes slightly different to what's available here are you able to get them no okay oh they also that there aren't places that carry students and they're different things at this point I really don't miss too much you do initially but the Jewish foods is what is a little different don't we just make them thinking back on
the time that you got here till now what are you just for fun what are you the most proud of can you think of an example something some anything that you were the most problems people have to be my kids I'm really impressed with how he's traveled up the alone of being president of all these organizations my kids are fantastic just great human beings where are they now and how is their families however their families grown the oldest is married she married somebody from Dallas and they live in New York and they have three little boys the middle one married a Canadian and they live
in Toronto and they have three little boys and my son our son is single he lives in New York as well yeah so I guess you're doing a lot of traveling to see everybody under babysit again oh that's wonderful that's good thing good things all good things tell me a little bit about gaining your citizenship what was that like very different to what people have these days he open was working for a couple years at the dental school in death in Austin and I was on a visa that didn't allow me to work and we applied we didn't have to pay very much at all
and a Presta stand went through which was great they just had to be sure that there wasn't any other American that could take the job that he was doing in the dental school so that meant through easily and then fortunately once we're in Dallas one of his patients was the woman who oversaw the citizenship certification so she sped that up for us and had our interview 4x submit we went to B we went to be inductor then it went so smoothly because we had her helping it was amazing that's good you're lucky yeah very lucky any regrets at all about coming here specifically to the
States or even to Dallas no at all not to the states because this is where Hilton threw out the only thing is just a lack of family do you still go back to South Africa at this point to travel to this occasionally whose parents are not alive anymore his sister is there so occasional if this affair me a wedding will go back I would like for it to be more but you know we're very busy with Bill France campaign no he's right of course I'm there all the time and the kids go because it just nice to be with customers so they go occasionally so
no regrets and they love to be with my sisters and all the castles but Israel was just not the place that would have been perfect for Yeltsin well at least you get to visit so that is good right that's wonderful before we end well in your own words and is there anything you'd like to add to anybody about the whole journey it's started off being tough in a sense and yet we didn't recognize this because of a naive I guess in those days and willing to do anything and literally we arrived with two suitcases of clothing we have no expectations I think that was the
best thought I think it's harder for families who have lived in South Africa for a while and accumulated stuff and then we need to bring it all over and make those decisions we didn't have much and it was it was fine that was really fun it was wonderful having the support of the South Africans because our backgrounds obviously we're a little different don't regret anything it was an amazing move for us very good I hope you have many many happy years ahead of you visiting traveling seeing everybody and having a rich winter and a Hilton - thank you Mazel Tov you