Dr. Mona Hersh Cochran
Mona Hersh Cochran was born in Philadelphia in 1934 and moved as a toddler to Atlantic City, New Jersey, where her father worked as a professional photographer. She recalled an easy childhood of the beach and boardwalk, unlocked doors, and roller skating in the streets, along with wartime memories of ration coupons and saving stamps for war bonds. Her parents divorced when she was nine, and she was raised by her mother, who ran a photographic shop, and her grandmother, a strong woman who had immigrated from Russia while pregnant and raised seven children. Determined to make her way, Mona graduated with honors from Atlantic City High and won a state scholarship. Barred as a woman from attending Rutgers alongside male students, she enrolled at Camden Rutgers, worked part-time, and earned her degree in economics, later pursuing a master's at Temple University at night.
Mona began her career in the pioneering days of computing, turning down offers from IBM and others to work for Remington Rand Univac, where she programmed the Univac I in machine language under the brilliant mathematician Dr. Grace Hopper. She later joined a computer consulting division that moved from Philadelphia to New York. When her first husband, a podiatric surgeon, chose to practice in Dallas, she moved there in 1960 and continued consulting while starting a family. With three children born in about two and a half years, she approached SMU, the only Ph.D. program in the region, and negotiated a scholarship and assistantship. Facing considerable resistance as the only mother on campus, she persevered through incompletes and unhelpful professors, earning a master's along the way and, in 1966, becoming the first woman to receive a Ph.D. in any field at SMU.
In Dallas, Mona and her family first belonged to Congregation Sherith Israel, where Rabbi Nissim Wernick served, and later joined Temple Emanu-El. When she wished to marry Ken Cochran, a non-Jewish professor of economics and chairman at North Texas, Rabbi Jack Bemporad officiated after she obtained a Jewish divorce. She described her 32-year marriage to Ken as the best time of her life, crediting his stability with helping raise her three teenagers. She taught computing and economics at Texas Woman's University for 35 years and later endowed a scholarship for part-time women graduate students in economics. She witnessed the Kennedy assassination while at SMU, watched Jack Ruby shoot Oswald on television, and remained a lifelong student of the events. Deeply proud of her three accomplished children and her grandchildren, she urged the next generation to pursue whatever they do with passion.
Full Transcript
Mona good morning good morning 1934 Philadelphia let's go back what do you remember when you were just a little girl back in Philly I didn't grow up in Philly I grew up in Atlantic City New Jersey and I remember the beach and the boardwalk and all the fun we always had yeah now now why did your family move out of Philly uh because my father was a professional photographer and he got a job in Atlantic City okay and how old were you when the move was made oh I don't know 2 three 4 okay so you're really a little one what was life like in
Atlantic City life was easy you left your doors unlocked you walked to school you ate lunch at school you walked home and nobody bothered you it was easy roller skated on the street I hit a girl on the head with my roller skate oh boy that was disaster and the year that President Roosevelt died in the middle of World War II we all cried remember that yeah um tell me about your parents my parents were divorced when I was 9 years old and uh I learned to cope yeah now were you with your mom or with with my mom yeah and did you get to
see your dad though too no he became a stranger oh do you remember your grandparents at all my grandmother helped raise me on your mom's side on my mom's side tell tell me tell about your your grandparents on your mom's side my grandmother was a very strong woman she immigrated from Russia when she was pregnant with her first child and she raised a family of seven children my mother was one of seven so I had lots of cousins and aunts and uncles yeah what about your grandfather what did he do my grandfather was originally he was in the RW iron business when he moved from
Russia then he became a kosher butcher yeah did they ever talk to you at all and tell you about the stories about their travels no to come to the states no do you remember that butcher shop I remember my my mother's photographic shop because I had to work in it when I was in high school now what about your grandparents on your dad's side did you know them I didn't know them I knew them casually when they came to Atlantic City for the summer but only casually now where did you go to high school Atlantic City High and tell me about high school life high
school [Music] was e and so I figured my best way out of this ghetto is to get through High School do well and uh graduate and then I'll be off the hook now when you were a young child you know you mentioned uh Roosevelt passing towards the end of World War II how did the War affect your family we had ration coupons and uh my mother's car we could only get gasoline every so often and we had to use margarine and we mixed up the margarine with color to make it look more like butter and uh we saved stamps 10 cent pink stamps 25 cent
Green Stamps and we saved them in a book till we got $18.75 worth then we could buy a war bond and when that expired we had $25 wow now after high school did you go to work or did you go to college no After High School I went right to college and I went to uh I had a very unique experience because I had what was called a state scholarship from the state of New Jersey and that was because I was one of the top 10 students in the high school I graduated with what was known as a gold tussle and with honors and I
got a state scholarship I got accepted to Ratcliffe I got accepted to the university of Pennsylvania but I was too poor to go so I took my state scholarship and I went to the college the Women's College of ruter at that time it was called New Jersey college for women the next year after I was there it became Douglas College which it still is so I took the state scholarship and I went to Douglas College and it was very interesting I had a very wealthy roommate from South Orange New Jersey and that was a revelation cuz she came from a different world than I did
but I was a revelation for her too and uh I wanted to major in business and economics but they had no business and economics that I liked at the girls school and so I said to the advisor your economics is just economic history and business Cycles there's no math there's no stat it's just not ger M so uh what can I do with my state scholarship I'd like to go cross town to ruter University and matriculate there well you can't go across town I said but I have this ruer scholarship and that's good for the ruer system how about if I just go across town
take the courses and we transfer them back to Douglas College you cannot do that you cannot sit in class with the men so I said well what do I do with this state scholarship to get some economics well you can go to Newark ruter I said but Newark ruter is engineering and Pharmacy and I'm not interested in those fields well you could go to Camden ruter I said well Camden ruers is a city school they have no dormitories and I'm 18 years old where do I live well you can live in a boarding house so I went to Camden ruter I lived in a boarding
house I worked in a dress shop parttime and and I went to Camden ruter and I got my degree from Camden ruers in economics and that held me in such good stead that I could go to Temple University at night one course at a time to work on a master's while I was working after I graduated Camden rers and then when I moved to Dallas in 1960 and the reason for that move I'm sorry the reason for the move the reason for the move was that my my husband whom I had married as a Podiatry student had graduated and he had finished a podiatric surgical
degree and so he wanted to practice in Dallas because it was there were lots of opportunities okay so I had a decision to make at that time I was working for Coopers and livebrand in their computer business because in their Consulting for computers because my first job out of college I was offered a job by Sun Oil Company because I was an economics major by a bank by an insurance company by IBM and by Remington Rand UNC computers were just coming in well IBM offered me $325 a month and Remington ran univac offered me $350 a month so I took Remington ran unifac and I
was so fortunate to work for Dr Grace Hopper she was a brilliant mathematician that Remington ran had recruited back out of the Navy to work on their programming systems and I programmed for the univac one in machine language to this day my original programming book is in the archives at SMU so what happened was uh I got bored working for Remington ran univac after a year or two they put me at Philly electric with a team of people to try to sell Philadelphia electric a univac one and Philadelphia electric had six sharp people on their systems committee and they had worked up a book of
procedures that they thought were applicable to computers and they were right and so I got bored just going to Philly electric every day and trying to work on their system so I called up libran rast Brothers at Montgomery and I said you have a Consulting division for computers and I'd like to work for you and they said okay come on so I went to work for them in Philadelphia but their computer experts one was from RCA one from NCR one from IBM were so brilliant and I did the research for them and what happened was the New York office of librarians said we want your
whole division to move to New York because we have the big clients in New York Alcoa and this one and that one Collins radio and so forth so we moved to New York by then I was married when I got to New York after a year I became pregnant so now in 1960 I'm still working for librarians my husband decides he wants to practice in Dallas and I have a decision to make stay in New York be a single mom and a career woman or move to Dallas and have a family so I said well okay I'll move to Dallas it's the right thing to
do so I moved to Dallas librans gave me a terrific bonus recommendation and I worked for librans in Dallas as a consultant for a year while I was having babies and then I had my first child September of 1960 then I got pregnant with my second child 6 weeks later so now I'm pregnant with one and a half children and I'm doing consulting for librans and I said this is no life so I've got to do something else so I called up SMU I said to the chairman at SMU sir you have the only PhD program in all of Dallas Fort Worth Arlington Denton anywhere
and that happens to be in economics and I'm an economics major from up East I have a bachelor's from ruter I have almost a master's from Temple University because I didn't finish my thesis because I got pregnant and I moved South but I have all the credits so I'd like to work and go to school at SMU and the gentleman said well come in we'll interview you we just had one gentleman who refused to come so I went in for an interview and I was 8 months pregnant and he had heard another child cry in the background and he said well how are you going
to manage I said you have to give me a scholarship you have to give me whatever it takes for me to pay my tuition my books and to hire a housekeeper to watch my children and to buy a used car because my husband just went into practice and we don't have much money so he said okay I will give you $2400 a semester I and tuition I said I'll take it now what do I have to do you have to go to school fulltime you have to be a TA or an RA a teaching assistant or a research assistant and you have to work X
number of hours a week I said fine for $2,400 a semester you got a deal so that's what I did I went to SMU and I hired a housekeeper I had my Irish twins two girls and I taught full-time for them or I did research whichever and I had to take three or four courses at a time it Belle killed me but I didn't and uh in the middle of second year I had my third child my son well that about threw me for a loop except that fortunately in those days we could get induced and I got induced between semesters and I went back
to school in the second semester of 1963 and so I had three children in 2 and 1/2 years all on diapers all in bottles three car seats in a car the only station wagon on the campus and I was the diversity on the SMU campus well they didn't like my having a child in the middle of the second year so one professor gave me an incomplete another made me drop his course and one let me stay so that put me about a year behind but it was okay cuz my son was worth it and I took a different course than the one I had dropped
and uh to this day I have an incomplete on my transcript which you're not allowed to have when you graduate with a PhD because that means you didn't finalize your curriculum your your pedagogical curriculum after this professor failed me three times on a re-exam I finally finally dawned on me he was not going to pass me on principal so I went to the economic history Professor named Dr John Spratt and Dr Spratt was famous he was an economic historian and he had written the original history of the oil industry called the road to Spindletop he went back for a PhD way after he had had
his master's so that he could go further in the academic world I said Dr Sprat I need a favor he said what's that I said I've never taken your economic history because I'm not very good in history but I need your economic history to replace International Theory which Professor so and so doesn't believe I understand so may I take your course he said certainly so now a year later I start all over with another course and I'm working on my dissertation and I took economic history now I didn't know how to type because I never learned how to type cuz I always had secretaries so
I handw wrote everything so for his first paper I handw wrote the paper and he handed it back and he said here Mrs hirs here's your paper it's a B minus and I said well thank you sir he said no Mrs hirs you can do better than this why don't you rewrite the paper I said thank you so much sir for the opportunity you want me to rewrite this paper and if I do I may get an A is that it he said yes I said thank you for the opportunity I'll take my B minus I have no time to write another paper I have
to get on with my dissertation I have to raise three children and I have no time to rewrite this paper I'll take my B minus so that's how I got through I got all B's on my transcript not very not very uh wonderful but I got out and I got the union card the PHD on the way up I got a master's degree from SMU because on the way to a PhD you fulfill the requirements for a master's degree so I got a master's that was in ' 64 in 66 the kids and I were all over the newspaper the times hurled the Morning News
second doctor in the house Mrs hirs gets the third degree three little ones and I was the first woman to get a PhD in anything at SMU in 1966 so the kids all went to the graduation and I got hooded I was the 10th graduate but the first woman I got hooded and the kids you there's my mommy there's my my mommy and everybody's laughing and they think this is funny and I'm waving to the kids and the and the hood didn't make any difference I was out that's all that mattered and Texas Woman's University had hired me the year before as a assist an
assisted Professor if I got the PHD by the next year so I had to finish up and get it and I did and that's the story of my academic life your first marriage ended in a divorce not too years later okay and then you remarried right tell me about your your husband your second husband oh my second husband was the shineing grace for the kids of me he was a professor of economics and chairman of the Department of Economics at North Texas I went to teach at Texas Woman's he was very kind and said anything I can do to help you I know you're alone
over there let me know I said Thank you when I was a student I met him because he had a paper to deliver and one of his uh presenters at the southwestern economic Association didn't show up but he sent the paper it was very mathematical so he went to this professor of mine who was the one who didn't pass me and said I need a graduate student who can understand this mathematical paper and I need her or him to present this paper at my my one of my meetings and so the professor said oh there's Mona hirs over there she's very smart in math and
she'll present your paper so I had no choice because if one of my professors at SMU says I have to present a paper I have to present a paper so Dr Cochran said would I please do it I said sure do you have a copy of the paper he said yes I said well when is the program he said tomorrow morning at 9:00 I said okay I'll be there just let me have a copy of the paper to study tonight okay so that night I went home my son was two months old I gave him his 2:00 bottle and I read the paper so I
knew what I was reading and then the next morning at 9:00 I presented that paper and he said how did you understand that I said well I'm a mathematical Economist I said you know we're a whole different generation he said okay he said well maybe when you finish you'll come work for me at North Texas I said maybe I will but I didn't I went to work for Texas wom's University because Arlington Fort Worth North Texas all had night courses in economics and I could not teach at night I had to be home with the kids so Texas wom's had six day curriculum and I
could go Monday Wednesday Friday and Tuesday Thursday Saturday in the mornings and that worked out terrifically so then I got the kids into school except the last one I took him with me to Denton put him in the nursery school up there the demonstration school and he went with me and so I taught a Texas woman 6 days a week my children always thought that a normal car poool was my mom takes in the morning and somebody else's mom brings home they didn't know any differently cuz I could never get back in the afternoon in time to pick them up so I car pulled six
mornings every morning no matter who I car pooled with and that worked out okay cuz those moms didn't want to go out in the morning anyway they all took care of the afternoon carpals we had no cell phones we had nothing just the telephone and we all managed somehow tell me about your involvement in the Jewish Community when I was moved here we became members of sherith Israel because my husband was conservative and I was raised Orthodox so I thought that would be appropriate and Rabbi nissam worick was the rabbi then and I got divorced and he said to me you can't get divorced till
you get a get I said what the hell is a g so he explained what a get was a g is a Jewish divorce only the husband can get it so you have to get the husband make that a condition of your divorce to get the GS Sid stall was my divorce lawyer he had just gotten divorced I used to carpool with his wife he had just gotten divorced I said Sid did you get a get no what's a get I said well if you're divorced you better get a get or you can't remarry that's the way it is in the Jewish law he said
oh okay I said so put that in my divorce agreement that I have to get again so he did so then NW approved that he had to approve it then a year later I wanted to marry Cochran and I went to niss morck and I said Nissim I'm going to marry a gentleman that I know professionally and he's not Jewish and he said well he has to convert I said well what does he have to do to convert he said well first he has to get circumcised I said he's already circumcised I promise you that then he said you have to he has to follow
some readings and answer some questions I said n he's read more than you have about Judaism let me tell you he's not going to convert he said well then there's nothing you can do I said wait a minute last High holidays you gave a sermon and I heard your sermon and your sermon said there's a rabbi in town who will perform intermarriages and you knocked it but I listened and I found out who that Rabbi was so thank you Nissim for tipping me off and I went to Jack bmprod I said Dr M Mr Dr bod Rabbi bmprod at Temple Emanuel I need your help
I'm a divorced I have a get and I want to marry a non-jew will you marry us he said certainly I said well I have to discuss some things with you I have three children and I'm very worried that he's not Jewish and doesn't want to convert and da d da d da and Jack bod said to me are you marrying a man or religion I said thank you very much we're all set I said well would you do me a favor would you speak to Dr Cochran he said sure So Ken Cochran went to speak to Rabbi de peerot and he said I'm only
worried that Mona and the children won't accept me he said they'll accept you the only thing the children are worried about is who's going to car pull them and he said anyway what what is your feel what do you do well they found out that they were both philosophy majors in undergraduate school so now they had a real Rapport my husband M Tobi and Jack Bot so he married us and not long after that he got fired from Temple Emanuel I think for doing in marriages he also married zman Bruno zman Bruno was the first violinist with the Dallas Symphony he also married a non-jewish
woman he married them too he did some wonderful things okay now he's got me and three teenagers and he has to move to Dallas because I cannot uproot the kids by All rights I should have moved to Denton cuz we were both teaching in Denton he was chairman at North Texas I'm at tww they're just three miles apart in town but I couldn't do it so he sold his house and he moved to Dallas my children when we got married I had the last one get bar mfit at sherith Israel before we got married so that was finished and that took care of that then
we all moved to Temple Emanuel after I got married and a year later my do oldest girl was 15 she graduated high school at 16 she wanted to go to college I said you can only go to SMU or junior college and live at home too young never mind Mom I'm going to Israel for a year I said good go to Israel for a year sounds good so she goes to Israel with the young Judea group from sharth Israel she and her cousin from wo they go to Israel for a year they they live on a kabut they do in moav but first they were
on the um uh on Mount scopus at the hadasa center and they studied Hebrew in an opon and she came out first in the opon of course caner Sanders taught them all it shareth Israel they knew their Hebrew backwards and forwards so she came out first in the old Pon then she calls me up one day from Israel hey Mom I said what is it Paul I ran into Rabbi worick he's in Israel so you found him how funny so we had a big relationship with the Jewish community and my husband joined he said to Bod he said listen I'm not Jewish how can I
belong to the temple and Rabbi bod says you don't have to be Jewish to belong to the temple all you have to do is pay your dues so he paid the dues he gave them a contribution the kids got confirmed at Temple and then they went off to college CEST time in your life the 32 years I was married to Ken Cochran and he was raising my three teenagers and he did a fabulous job and without his stability I would have been off the wall in your lifetime there's been so many advancements in technology did something come along that you really took notice of and
said wow how' we ever get along without that yeah and computers remember I worked for reming toan univac 1 it was a drum machine you had a program and know when the drum came around we had 10,000 characters of memory for data instructions and working storage 10,000 characters in binary now each character was seven binary bits so we used the instructions for counters we could never count more than 100 from 0 to 99 was 100 items we moved 100 items in we worked on them and moved them out and that's how we managed now there's tremendous advances in computers I taught computers at tww for
35 years when I first came here at SMU Ross perau this was in the 60s Ross perau had EDS before that he had been IBM's top salesperson in the Dallas area and he had Mort Myerson working for him in the 1960s Medicare and Medicaid were ready to come in so Ross perau knew every computer that IBM had sold in the area oversold that had what we called excess computer time and so so he set up a service bureau Service Bureau meant he would program for anybody and know where he could debug the programs because he had excess computer time available at this company that company
and what have you so then he figured out if he could just program up the processing for Medicare and Medicaid that in 1965 when they got passed he would say Blue Cross Blue Shield you have an IBM computer you're going to get the processing for the claims at X number of cents a claim and I'm going to have the programming ready so we're going to hook up so Blue Cross Blue Shield and EDS hooked up and he had Mort Myerson get those programmers working day and night they had cots in there Mort gave them oranges their Human Resources guy came to me at SMU and
says Mona H we know you have a background in computers we want you to do systems work for EDS because we're going to get the contract from the government to process the Medicare Medicaid claims with Blue Cross Blue Shield I said thank you very much for the offer but I know the computer business and it's not 40 hours a week it's 80 hours e on debugging your systems I wish you good luck so that's what happened with the computer business so now I taught computers I put the first course into Texas Women's okay and my secretary and my Student Assistance they worked any computer that
we had in the department we only had one originally in the Central I don't know wherever it was at tww and I explained to them how computers work I taught them Cobalt I taught them Fortran in 20 minutes uh I taught them flow charting I taught them how binary math I taught them everything about the computer after 35 years when I retired there's no way I want a computer to this day I do not have a computer I'm not on the internet I don't have an iPhone I don't have an iPad any research I want I call the library I have research Librarians that say
out the most interesting projects any computer work I want want I call my secretary and Denton she's still there and she has a computer and she does anything I need done now in your lifetime you've lived through so many momentous occasions uh you know Vietnam War World War II even uh President Kennedy is assassination something good in ' 69 the first moon landing of course 9/11 the tragedy there was there something that happened on the national scene that you took notice of and really knew where you were when it happened that really affected you yeah the Kennedy assassination where were you I was studying for
an exam that day at T at SMU I had to take an exam my professor gave us an exam because he went to the luncheon down at Market Hall for Kennedy he was invited so I was in my office the whole time studying and at 2:00 5 of 2 I went to the exam and he walked in and I was shocked to see him cuz I didn't think he'd be there and he said well Johnson's been sworn in and I said to the guy next to me what's he talking about and the guy said Kennedy was shot I said you're kidding when he said this
morning where were you I said in my office studying for this exam what happened he said he was shot and Johnson was sworn in and Wally Lovejoy who was supposed to be at the lunch and came and gave us the exam I couldn't believe it so I took the exam I was shook up but I took the exam then I ran out and ran to the departmental phone and I called my housekeeper I said Mimi Mimi did you hear what happened she said said yes Mrs H I was so wondering why you didn't call me all morning I said I just heard how did you
hear she said from the Milkman so I'll never forget that never as long as I live and then we all went to synagogue that night that was 1963 50 years ago this month 1963 and I son was a few months old I got a babysitter we all went to synagogue to share with Israel the place was momed because we all want to know why in Dallas we all felt so guilty that it was in Dallas that was on a Friday Saturday we were still wondering why in Dallas Sunday I'm sitting in my kitchen with my husband and three babies and we're watching the television and
watched Jack Ruby kill oswal on the television we were dump struck dump struck I said uh-oh something is going on here there is something more than a simple assassination because there's no reason for Jack Ruby to kill oswal they wouldn't have taken him through the basement of the police station that openly if they ever thought anybody was after so then Ruby went on trial they changed the venue and I said uh-uh he's connected to the mafia and mafia doesn't like Jack Kennedy being president for a very simple reason he campaigned he got his father to campaign for him in Chicago he got mayor da to
get his whole bunch of people in Chicago to vote for Kennedy and then he turns around and makes his brother attorney general and his brother goes after the mob and I've been a a devote of the conspiracy theory ever since and I've read everything there is on it and I've watched the BBC film of the two guys in Paraguay that admitted to being behind the grassy nle and just the other day we heard a tape that there were two shots fired I said nobody would have entrusted a jerk like Oswald to do such a brave thing and succeed at it they had to have a
backup plan so then my husband happened to be a patient Dr Cochran a patient at Southwestern Medical School and his urologist Dr Peters was on duty in the emergency room when Kennedy was brought in and Dr Peters told my husband no question when he was on that operating table in the emergency room the brains were blown from the front to the back by the time they did the autopsy in Washington the brains were changed from the back to the front it didn't mesh and it still doesn't mesh the Warren Commission I give them credit they were trying to give closure to the American people Johnson
wanted closure to the American people three kids six grandkids my first girl was at the Dallas theater center as a young girl and she wanted to go into theater and I said no way Paula you she's the one that went to Israel I said no way Paula you cannot go into theater you cannot make a living in theater you must make a living husbands can come and go but you have to keep your maiden name and make a living so how about television oh that sounds good Mom I said good television's a big deal you could go to broadcast journalism pick any school you want
so we looked around at different schools and she chose Syracuse the new house school of communication she got a degree in three years out of the new house school of communication today she is the manager of the television station for the City of Newport News Virginia my second girl she went to Princeton I was so proud of her to go to Princeton CU when I went to Douglas College I couldn't even use the Princeton Library women weren't allowed in so when she went to Princeton I said that's a good place to go so she went to Princeton majored in economics then she went to University
of Texas she got a law joint law and ba degree in 3 and 1/2 years she was Judge Maguire the bankruptcy judge in Dallas his first female clerk in the 1980s I said Susie I can retire now you can carry the flag I'm tired of being the first my son he went to Princeton he didn't want to go there his sister went there I said your sister's two years ahead of you ignore her consider her just a friend that you know from high school and you go to Princeton and you get a degree and then you do what you want he went to Princeton he
couldn't major in economics his sister majored in economics so he majored in political science but they had no business curriculum at Princeton so he became editor of a of a periodical called business today that was a favorite of of George Will and Malcolm Forbes and he got to beat all those people and he was editor of that and he ran a summer program and because of that he got a an analyst at Morgan Stanley for two years he deferred Stanford Business School then he went to Stanford Business school and he graduated there with honors and now he's a merchant Banker he's the CEO and founder
of natural gas Partners here which buys and sells natural gas companies and uh he's the one that was born in the middle of my SMU career and my second girl is a lawyer and she's a bankruptcy lawyer here in Dallas that's very busy right now so I'm very proud of those three children they all love what they're doing they have a passion for what they're doing my grandson the oldest older child of my son he was went to St Marks my son went to St Marks why because there were all women in the house my housekeeper me the two girls I said to my husband
this boy has to go to St Marks he needs a mail influence the first day he came home from school he said mommy there's no shower curtains on the showers then I knew I had done the right thing so he went to St Marks for 12 years he is the past chairman of the Board of Trustees of St Marks he's been very philanthropic to St Marks his son went to St Marks for 12 years he was also editor of the newspaper but my grandson just this year graduated St Marks and he was number one in the state for the whole state of Texas journalism high
school students and number three in the country so we were very proud of him he's at Northwestern now studying journalism he didn't want to go to Princeton my granddaughter she's two years behind him she's at Episcopal School of Dallas all a student she loves math and science so hopefully she'll do some math stuff whatever it is and wherever she wants to go and the other three uh one girl the oldest girl and she's my step granddaughter and she's brilliant and she got a degree from Austin College in Sherman and she's now working at a charter school but she hopes to go into Arts management I
hope she will I'll help her with that program at SMU if she wants to go into that and the other three are little ones so they're just getting started after I graduated SMU in 1966 1994 I was the first female PhD to get a distinguished alumni award this year they've called me a history maker and this Thursday I have to go back to SMU to the distinguished alumni banquet and get some history maker award because I had to go to school at SMU fulltime to get any money to this date they they have no money in The Graduate School of Economics for a female part-time
graduate student I would have loved to gone on part-time but I couldn't so three years ago I endowed a scholarship to help a part-time graduate student woman go in economics to graduate school the first girl that got it worked for Mary Kay she's graduated the second one worked for Bank of America she's graduated and the third one is a forensic Economist for a lawyer she's putting herself through at $5,000 a course two courses a semester at night to get a master's in economics so those are what I have done to try to give back to SMU what advice does Grandma want to leave to the
Next Generation whatever you do have a passion for what you're doing and right now my two older grandchildren have a passion for what they're doing my children are successful career people they have a passion for what they do that's the advice I give it doesn't matter how much money you make it doesn't matter what you what you go into it only matters that whatever you do you have a passion for it if you have a passion for it you will succeed you can't fail and you have to play the game by the rules and if you don't play the game by the rules you're not
going to play the game you may not like the rules I didn't like the rules I had a lot of bad experiences but it's okay I overcame them and I persevered to this day they call me perseverance is my middle name and that's probably true because I'll nag you one of my professors says to me oh this is Mrs H she nagged out of SMU I said sir you'd never use that verb with a man want thanks for doing this today we're done