Rhonda Duchin
Rhonda Duchin grew up in Dallas with an unusually deep connection to her maternal family, including both grandparents and great-grandparents. Her great-grandmother came from Poland and her great-grandfather from Russia; the two met in Kansas City, where she was about fourteen and he about twenty-four, and married quickly. Her great-grandfather, a tailor, is remembered for having pretended to be his married older brother to spare him army service in Russia before defecting and eventually settling in Kansas City. Rhonda's grandmother lived to about 106 and a half, passing away around 2018. The family moved to Dallas in the 1950s, and through a relative's research Rhonda learned she is directly related to a family line spanning thousands of names.
Born in Dallas after her mother, whose maiden name was Coff, met her father from California, Rhonda grew up first on Marsh Lane and later in North Dallas. Her Jewish name is Rivka Miriam. Her family celebrated the holidays with large Hanukkah gatherings and family Passover meals. Her parents married at Shearith Israel, but Rhonda preferred Tiferet, where she became deeply involved in USY before shifting her energy to BBYO. Her early exposure to diversity, including a close bond with the family's housekeeper Margie and her husband Henry, shaped her choice to attend the diverse Skyline High School rather than Hillcrest, an experience she treasured.
Rhonda met her husband David, from San Antonio, at the University of Texas at Austin, after also spending a year at San Diego State. They married when she was twenty-four and David twenty-five. After college she joined the family business, a children's clothing manufacturer's representative firm run by her father, brother, and sister, working there for about twelve years and traveling to regional markets including Houston, Lubbock, Oklahoma City, New Orleans, and New York. She is a life member of Hadassah and the National Council of Jewish Women, has been active with Federation, and is a member of congregations including Anshai Torah. She serves on the board of the Dallas Jewish Historical Society, where she has helped preserve wartime letters.
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this is an oral history with rhonda duchenne conducted by may siebel on monday june 15 2020. good morning rhonda how are you i'm good thank you may good good so rhonda let's go back and talk about your family history as far back as you know anything about it well i was so fortunate i grew up with not only my grandparents but great grandparents on my maternal side so um they weren't born here my great-grandparents um came to dallas couldn't tell you when but in the 50s um from kansas city but originally my great-grandmother was from poland and my great-grandfather was from russia and they met in kansas city when she was only like 14 years old and he was 24 and he
was swept away by her and married quickly and um and so they had three children and all three lived here um two have since passed away but i do have a great uncle who lives here in dallas and so we i have a lot of family here um and my grandmother passed away in 2018 i believe um at the age of 106 and a half oh my goodness fantastic what kind of stories did they tell you when you were growing up um you know it's interesting i remember as a child and i was 18 when my great-grandmother uh passed away and unfortunately i wasn't i
was around but i never really sat to listen to the stories it was really more from my grandmother telling the stories of her parents but um as a child and my i i like to play uh poker and games cards everything um and my you know people say oh you get that from your dad it was like when i was five years old i used to sit on my great grandmother's lap drinking her coffee as she was playing poker with her friends so that i remember very vividly she lived in the apartments over off of edgemere that you know if people from dallas they know
the the red apartments um and again i would spend a lot of time over there she was she could bake like no one could and um one of the best stories and i believe it to be true my and i tell friends all the time my great-grandfather uh for their 60th or one of their late anniversaries and had bought cemetery plots for their anniversary and so you know and they had that thick you know russian and yiddish accent my great-grandfather his name was abe and hers was fannie and so the following year you know my great-grandmother fanny asked saved she said no abe why did
you get me for our anniversary and he slammed his hand down and he says why should i get you anything you didn't use what i got you last year so um you know he was he was a very quiet person i you know now you know in hindsight it was like why didn't i sit there and really talk and get to really know them and and where they came from and what they did the story of my great grandfather was in russia he [Music] um pretended to be his older brother because his old hit i mean yeah wait yeah his older brother was already married
and had kids and so and he wasn't married and he pretended to be the older brother because the older brother was drafted you know had to go into the army and so he didn't want his older brother to do that so he pretended to be him but then defected and his his goal was to go to california you know i guess maybe to mine gold who knows um never made it that far he ended up like i said he went i think through philadelphia and then ended up in kansas city and again that's where he met were were there relatives in kansas city that he
wanted well for him i'm trying to think how he got there honestly i don't know but for my great-grandmother she her mother and the uh well i'll tell you a story about how the whole lineage of her family has now come about but her she had an uncle or relative in kansas city and her mother had passed away at an early age her father remarried and supposedly the woman he remarried was not nice and again stories that i heard that my great-grandmother was a very rambunctious and you know um kind of a tomboyish kind of girl and you know i guess hard to deal with
whatever um anyway i guess the uncle in kansas city sponsored her so she came to live with him but she was also treated like a maid um you know and so she wasn't happy there and then the story goes that he the uncle said she was 18 so that she could get married and i believe she was like 15 when she got married so um because she did she wanted out she just didn't want to be there so there are tons of relatives because my mom and my grandmother remember you know my mom grew up in kansas city uh missouri and you know her friends
were her relatives um so it was a very close-knit thing you know fast forward to today or a couple years ago we have connected with a cousin who is a relative like my great-grandmother's father and his great-grandfather were twin brothers back in poland and his relative who now lives in israel has put together like over 2 000 names of relatives from that family from that side that's great that's great so were you born in kansas city no i was born here in dallas my mom um i guess moved here i know things went back and forth like i said my grandparents great grandparents moved here
i think they had friends my great-grandfather was a tailor and i think through friends or whatever they opened up a tailor shop um and so i think that's how they got here i know that uh there we have a picture of a storefront that he had um and my mom came here excuse me and that's where she met my dad who was from l.a it was from california and so that's how you know my more immediately and then my great my grandmother also moved here from springfield missouri and as you know prior to that kansas um and then moved to dallas and lived here since
the 50s what was your maiden name cough c-o-f-f okay and do you have a jewish name uh rithka miriam rick and miriam okay um what what is your earliest childhood memory my earliest is we grew up on marshlane um or i grew up on marsh lane and i remember sitting um well i do remember my sister supposedly i thought i was in the car that i've been told i wasn't in the car but my again living on marshalling you know it was a busy six lane major street uh my sister had gotten into the car we had a circular drive and i guess put it
in reverse you know without the car being on and the car started rolling back onto um marsh you know craziness um and she uh you know thank god you know it must not who knows what day of the week it was but you know she was fine everyone was fine i i for my recollection i thought i was in the car but nobody but you remember you remember the story i remember the story and then also i remember there was a little girl who lived across the street um we were on a corner so i can't remember i want to say it was cromwell and
marsh um and i we had a maid growing up and i would ask my maid every day i asked margie i said can i go visit her and like i would go there i cannot tell you how many times i never met the girl once either she was doing something she was sleeping i mean i i was no more than four or five years old at the time um because when we moved i never met her so i don't know um if she was sick or something or you know later on i thought maybe they knew we were jewish or something i don't know but
what was your favorite thing to do for fun when you were growing up um i you know i i remember being in that house on marslane i remember um i don't know i thought i was a very quiet and shy child and now the first time i really had close friends was when i moved to the house in north dallas um from stephanie where i went to preston hollow and a lot of you know eventually that turned in you know all the kids that went there went to hillcrest so also known as hillcrest high excuse me and um my very best friend who i am
still friends with today um we moved to uh stephanie the street stephanie and she lived two doors down and we met um she was playing in her back driveway and i was riding my bike back and forth and you know i did it like you know 20 times or whatever finally it was like we met and to this day we are still the best of and um so really i mean our lives revolved around each other until we went off to college so um that's great yeah did you have pets do you have any pets growing up i did we um for a few times
my dad would bring home a dog or something and for i don't know what happened maybe it was too difficult to take care of and and then we ended up finally with um a poodle um named buffy and of course i grew up watching the uh family affair so then we got a second dog and we named him uh jody uh no not jody buffy and that was the older sister's name my cousin ended up getting a dog and she named him jody anyway um but buffy yeah was they were awesome dogs um we had gone to israel in as a family in 73 and
the dogs went to the you know stayed over you know were boarded and when the saddest thing was when we came back um had we'd only had her for about a year or something um died well while there and they said she had an enlarged heart and stuff so that was sad it was i was very sad so what was your religious life growing up what congregation did you belong to and well mike might always celebrate the holidays my my parents got married at sheriff and so up until um that was in 1955 so they were there up until 71 my grandfather had passed away
and my grandmother was a member at to ferret and so i would go to services with her while she was you know um yeah her uh year of morning and and i particularly didn't care that much for sheriff and so i ended up um my both my siblings were older they ended up i know my sister was confirmed at sheriff i don't remember about my brother but i'm three and a half and five years younger than them and so it was kind of like we led two separate lives and so i said i wanted to go to ferret and so we ended up my parents
said okay they moved my parents weren't particularly religious or observant um we did always big hanukkah celebrations with lots of gifts and with family excuse me and then passover was with um my mom's sister um you know we always had a big family passover meal we and of course you know going to survey we you know we go to services for rosh hashanah and yom kippur but and i went to sunday school hebrew school all of my life um you know at that time you know i had some really good friends i got very involved young um within csy that was that uh to ferret
and that was my entree into you know jewish um my jewish culture my jewish life and so i loved it i went to every convention imaginable um and then i ended up also going into bbyo and i just remember someone at that point like you can't do both and you know obviously you can but i wasn't you know i said okay so i ended up really uh directing my attention to bb whale and got very very involved that way um but a lot of it was mostly cultural um up until probably i don't even remember when but i didn't even know about the holiday of
shabuo because by that time you know when you were there for school shavuot usually happened after school ended and so i never knew about anything and it wasn't really taught you know i went to sunday school not in the hebrew school not to really learn anything but just to be with my friends [Laughter] none of them went to school where i went and so it was nice to you know have that group of friends what world events had the most impact on you when you were growing up and uh did any of them personally affect your family good question you know i look back going
i was oblivious to the world i think to some degree i led pretty much a shelter like i will say that no i my mom was very worried uh when they were talking about desegregation and about busing and my mom was very concerned about me in particular again i don't where there was concern more for my siblings they were i guess already in high school um but she had me tested to go to like green hill or hockaday and both of them were like one of them said no they didn't want to accept me the other one said i'd have to go to summer school
i'm like i'm not going to summer school and so my mom was just really worried that i would be bus into a black neighborhood interesting you know all with everything that's going on today um she was just so afraid for me and the funniest thing was again like i said i grew up with a maid and she was truly like a second mom to me i mean she taught me so much i just loved her and her husband was very involved and they were family you know we would go visit them i knew all about her family and he his name was henry and he
told him shirley i will take care of ronda and um you know i just remember being tested i i don't remember being afraid the only thing i do remember was there was no busing they did to the uh black community but they did bust in from the black community um at franklin junior high and so um um uh you know i remember people talking about you know being afraid of going into the um bathroom you know they're gonna ask for your lunch money or whatever and just didn't really i never felt threatened in any shape form or fashion i just i remember i had a
pe teacher who was also the drill team coach and we just knew she was definitely afraid i mean because she would do stuff it would be like you know have girls on the drill team that didn't belong but because they were black she was like uh you know i'm gonna i'm gonna include them and it was like but they they can't take it it's like you know it wasn't whatever um and so for high school i had the choice i i applied to go to skyline which at that time was um kind of a uh mag our first magnet school here in dallas and you
know i used to tout it is 51 black and i love going there so early on diversity was very important to me so um so you ended up going to skyline i did i loved it i absolutely loved it it was a perfect choice and so i didn't go to hillcrest i i had the choice of going part-time i'm going to two schools in hillcrest being my home school but i said no no i had two best friends um jamie schultz who many of the community yeah family and my other my best friend you know two doors down robin they were both a year older
than me and they were like go to one to hillcrest one went to skyline and they were both pulling at me and they they were and so when i went in south island i'm like hands down this place wins it was just a really awesome experience and really learned a lot there so the events of today must really be affecting you since uh growing up you were very much into diversity and didn't have the the fears that your family right right and again i honestly believe it was having margie a part of my life because you know it was you know probably looking back at
it you know having a maid and and whatever but um yeah it's what's what's going on in today's world i i i you know i'm struggling with how to be effective um and help move the needle so it's you know it definitely wears on me i can understand that um let's see were there any famous or infamous relatives in your family well i don't know if they're related my grandfather's last name was einhorn and i did hear about there was an ira einhorn who i think was like a serial killer or something and did really awful things um so um that would be it being
that that's an aristocratic name and was never changed i'm sure there's some way and i don't know if anyone in my family who has done his lineage but like i said he came you know his his father came from austria and so it would be quite interesting to see if he's um any part of our lives but you know we all have history um now my on my great grandmother's side the hammer family that this new relative that we found he's not new and has done all of this research and i did find out i'm directly related to marley matlin um i believe her mother
is a hammer so we're directly related um but other than that i haven't found anyone who uh who i would claim or if they would claim me are there any uh special heirlooms that have been passed down to you from your family there are my great grandmother and through my grandmother i received her candlesticks so supposedly those came from poland um i don't know but i'll i'll keep that as my own history and so my family knows they're very special and then i'm going to show this is a necklace i mean a a pendant that has my name and birthdate on the back uh my
grandmother had a bracelet and a different charm for each of the grandchildren and she wore it for many years and i guess at one point she decided she was gonna break it up and so each of us got our um our you know our little uh charm and i had seen everyone so i'm like hey guys mine's the prettiest because they well the boys were the same and i believe they were given to the wives after they got married that's all there was four girls all ours were different and i truly believe mine was the prettiest okay um you were married i'm married and yeah
how did you meet your husband so we met at the university of texas in austin um it's interesting i and had you know i was part of that big group you know it's like just moved down 35 and i was you know like i said i was very involved in uh youth group and bbyo and by the time i got to ut it was like i felt like even though ut was humongous it felt like it was the same thing the same people and and i struggled with it and after my sophomore year and i had a friend who went to san diego state and
we were talking and she says well come here and i'm like i really wanted to go to israel i wanted to do like a year course or something in israel at that time but um i had an aunt my my grandfather sister had never married and she left a little very small inheritance for education and i told my parents i said i want to use it and and you know like i want to go to israel like no you can't go to israel and i said okay then i want to go to san diego and so i ended up going to san diego state for
a year and the funny thing was halfway through the year i was like i'm homesick i want to go back home and so it turned out that i transferred back to ut and that august or whatever you know the week or so before school started that's where i met david um my husband who and was visiting a mutual friend and like hey come over and visit and i had i had heard of him i knew of him you know i had friends who were in a sorority you know so names were very familiar to me and i'm like oh i've heard his name i don't
really know him and then the very next day he's like well i'm coming back over for swimming and i'm like okay and you know we went swimming and then we had our first date september 10th and 35 years later uh where was he from he's from san antonio oh okay all right that's very very nice what memory stands out most from your wedding day well i remember somebody telling me take a step back and and take it all in you know don't just run through the whole thing and i tell you when people get married or whatever that's my one piece of advice i tell
everyone it's like you know just take that moment to step back and really experience it um you know for whatever reason i remember silly things like the waiter spilled soup on me on my dress um and um i just remember having a great time i being um scared obviously i was very scared and said we were yelling and of course at that time i felt like i was old but very young i was 24 um and david was 25 it was like i look back now going oh my god we were young we were silly um but um you know i remember it being in
june and it was like we were fortunate it was only like in the high 80s like oh you know great weather it was great weather and the funny thing was you know afterwards we had a limo take us around and then really right back to the hotel where we had our reception and um that morning in the elevator we run into all of david's relatives like oh good morning yes you know uh were you in the business world or professional world i ended up and after college my uh family had a family business uh in the shenandoah business my dad was a manufacturer's rep my
for children's clothing and my brother joined him and then my sis and then they split and then my sister joined my brother so it was kind of too side by side they weren't in competition or anything that traveled a lot together did a lot of traveling um had a showroom at that time in the apparel mart which is you know that got closed down and they ended up moving to the world trade center now dallas market center and when i graduated college i do you know not being able to go to my college graduation because market was going on in lubbock and my mom said
well we could really use your help there so instead of going to my graduation i was working and so um i really wasn't sure what i wanted to do um i've kind of been like that my whole life it's like i still don't know what i want to be when i grow up but um i did apply for a job and it was at i worked in retail all of my life um you know in high school i worked at casual corner um another a children's store and stuff just you know doing the thing that kids do you know get get a part-time job and
and so i thought i would go into retail and i ended up getting a job at a men's store called mark shale and i thought oh at the time i think it was an 18 000 salary i think there was possible commissions i don't even remember and when my you know mom and dad were like we really could use you and i so i said no and went to work for my family and did that for about 12 years and um so you went to all the markets i i went to all the markets i traveled um i did a lot of traveling with my
brother uh that we we had regional markets we went to houston lubbock oklahoma city um and then eventually i ended up going to new orleans and lafayette louisiana and stuff and i went a couple times to new york and of course you know i feel like dallas is this big you know metropolitan city the first time i went to new york i was like i felt like such a country bumpkin oh my god you know walking down the streets of new york city and my brother walks very fast and i'm like trying to keep up with him and there's a guy it was raining who
had a trench coat on don't know there was anything underneath and yelling at the top of his lungs excuse my french i'm not even saying the word he goes off the russians of the russians and my brother's like just keep walking rhonda just keep walking okay um of all the things you've learned from your parents what do you feel was the most valuable thing they taught you the best is two things that my mom always said this too shall pass and babies bring their own luck that's nice good words of advice what is one thing you uh most want people to remember about you um
very giving very forgiving that's nice have you been involved in in the jewish community here with organizations i have i'm a life member of hadassah a life member of uh national council of jewish women all right and think of it for a second um i'll be a board member now of the dallas jewish historical society society um i was involved early on with federation younger set um very very involved with uh the communities of uh we were one-time members of ancient or and i was very involved there and then we are now members of f torah and very involved there so um yeah very nice
is there anything you would like to add you know i just i i i'm proud to be a dallasite and appreciate all that the dallas jewish historical society does um the interesting thing is how i i actually asked to be on the board because i ended doing uh that's where we have karen lane or mitzvah day and it's um one of the things was to do stuff at dallas jewish historical society and for many years while my grandmother lived at golden acres i always went there so it gave me an opportunity to see her and then after she passed it was like well i want
to do something different and so when this came up i just loved i worked on a one of the projects that's an ongoing one right now where there a husband and wife when he was in the war shared you know wrote letters and it seemed like almost every day and they were all kept and so the preservation of those the opportunity to have read them um as i was helping to you know make sure they were all being put in you know the papers that needed to be i was like oh my god this is just one of the coolest things that this organization does
and the preservation of our history and i'm sorry that people don't write letters anymore because that is going to be so lost on the generations to come so that's true yeah well thank you very much rhonda it's been a pleasure to hear your story oh thank you may i appreciate it