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Rosal 1928 Boston Massachusetts MH let's go back what do you remember when you were just a little girl in Boston I remember a hurricane winds were blowing and we went for a little walk and one of the neighbors said you never walk and then said walk are you walking in a hurricane I was about four years old did everybody survive that hurricane that was a big deal in Boston I don't remember very much more about now what did your dad do for a living uh he sold printing supplies and he um he made up combinations of names for uh of numbers for uh bingo cards
I he did that on the side yeah yeah basically he was a printing salesman he sold printing for a company he was once a partner in the company but then they changed their structure and he he became an employee now right when you were a little girl the uh Great Depression hit do you know if it affected your family at all I didn't know that we were poor or middle class or whatever it was uh until I went to college but we um we always had food to eat it was I never thought anything different we we lived in a a three family house that
was owned by my uncle and um he had more money than some other people and when I graduated from high school he gave me $500 and I used that to pay for room and board at college for one year so I got to live away for a year wow uh do you remember your grandparents at all uh one of them died before I was born I think yes he died when my father was 12 years old I remember the others yeah tell tell me about your grandparents well my mother's parents lived near us and um I remember going to their home for saders and I
especially remember one seder where my mother had four sisters uh one lived in Baltimore one lived in New Bedford and the rest lived in Boston and uh but they all came for pass one year my mother went in the kitchen and added a little water to the soup cuz she was afraid they wouldn't be enough and turned out that two of the other sisters had done the same thing so we had plenty of soup tell me about your mom she left school when she was 14 because the family was poor and they didn't have enough money for silk stockings and she didn't want to go
around with runs and her stockings so she went to work she worked in some kind of a company that used stationary and my dad sold stationary and she met my dad and uh they got married uh my mother was born in Russia she came here when she was about three and I think my father was born here because she thought she' became a citizen when she married him and then she found out she hadn't so she became naturalized and uh now do you know when um when it was what year was it when your mom came here from Russia yeah it was 18 I think
it was 1897 or somewhere around there yeah did she ever telling stories about that trip she was only she was 3 years old what was high school life like for for you well I went to girls Latin School School mhm which in Boston which is a different High School from most high schools and uh there were only 100 in our class and you had to your parents had to sign something saying that you would they going to send you to college and neither one of my parents got past the ninth grade although my father finished high school at night but uh I went to girls
L school and I had to commute and um took me an hour to get there except if I took the back road it only took about 35 minutes and I had to walk through a minority neighborhood and I never told my parents my mother would have had a fit if she knew that was how I got to school the morning but um I had four years of college prep and uh was an all girl school I never dat I never dated really because I never had any way me boys you were a young woman when World War II broke out did that affect you or
your family at all well I spent four years of the war in college it started when when I graduated from high school and it ended when I graduated from college and um they W very men Prett men in our college at the time except for the uh reserves you know the Army and the Navy RC yeah yeah so we were uh I went to Radcliffe which was part of Harvard and um because there were so few men we had combined classes which continued afterwards but before that they always had separate classes now where did you meet your first husband he went to Yale and uh
there was an organization called at that time called is ISA an Intercollegiate sist Federation of America and Yale had some kind of a convention and they invited women from seven different colleges and we all went to New Haven and that was where I met my husband Jack Meltzer I graduated and then you guys got married then uh a year after I graduated cuz he had to get a job yeah and where did you guys settle down uh first four years we started out in Leon Maine that was his hometown but uh his father had been in the real estate business and he went he went
in with his family but uh the real estate business tumbled after a year or so and he got a job with an insurance company and we moved to Cleveland was that kind of a culture shock for you leaving the East Coast no no it was Cleveland I was surprised I asked if there were any Jews in Cleveland and there were like 60 or 70,000 at that time wow so uh wasn't a problem yeah yeah I I was I was used to living in a Jewish Community now were you raising your family then or were you working my oldest child was born in b Boston and
the next two in Cleveland and then you left Cleveland where did you go we came back to Boston and then we went to Dallas and this was always following Jack's career yeah okay and then when you got into Dallas what when was Dallas when did you arrive in Dallas 1967 it's changed a little bit hasn't it Dallas grew with the Advent of air conditioning and we came right around that time your first marriage ended in divorce and where did you meet Irving it was at a a Jewish sponsored uh dance what did Irving do for a living he was in the salad business Bud salads
what's the name of the company name was B off and yeah he had um he had he came he was oneor one boy there but he lived in California before he came here and he got involved in the salad business and came here as a partner in a salad company yeah yeah and then they company broke up and he continued and uh he sold vegetables to wholesale and then Irving passed away and then you were with another gentleman and what was his name his name was Israel Burger he was a retired radiologist and uh I had 10 wonderful for years with him were you involved
with the Jewish community at all I've always been involved with the Jewish Community okay and I appreciate the fact that the Jewish Community provides opportunities to work with meet other people um I have been involved with in the musical world and what did you do with the musical world you mentioned the musical world well I was on some committees or boards or something I belonged to ncjw and I belonged to adasa but I worked yeah yeah and what did you do uh I finished my social work degree in Dallas at Arlington that was in the first class the graduating that graduated and uh I worked
for the Dallas City Dental Health program for a number of years then I I did some Consulting for a while what was the happiest time in your life well I had lost my first baby at full almost full term so the second one came was pretty I was pretty happy with that in your lifetime you've seen so many inventions so many so much advancements in technology you know when you think back you probably remember when the Iceman came to people's homes to deliver the black of ice yeah and the Milkman came and delivered milk and we had a we had a little door on the
side of of the kitchen that you could open from inside or outside and even the Milkman delivered the milk and inside that door and then we opened the door and got the milk was there an invention that came along that you went wow how did we ever live without this I don't know how did we ever live without this but I remember the first refrigerator we had we didn't have an ice box anymore yeah yeah that was like a big time wasn't it yeah do you remember when the television came out yeah we didn't have Television right away it was little tiny boxes and you
know we didn't get it right away did you listen to the radio as a kid sure what were some of those radio shows you would like to listen to I don't know there were comedians that were on the radio and he didn't know what they looked like yeah um Jack Benny Eddie CER when you would listen to music when you were a kid do you remember what the music was it I was in when I got in the fourth grade um the Boston Symphony had youth concerts uh you paid $3 a year for six concert 50 cents a concert and uh School provided Transportation so
from the fourth fifth and sixth grade I went to the youth concerts and I have loved music ever since I still go yeah good for you and I go to the Opera I go to Dallas Symphony and I go to the for with Opera and the Dallas Opera and I keeps me busy on Sundays yeah excellent excellent um in your lifetime there's been so many momentous occasions of course you know you were just a little child during the Great Depression there was World War II the Vietnam War the Kennedy assassination the moonlanding for the first time in ' 69 of course the tragedy of 9911
was there something on the national scene that just stood out and you said I know exactly where I was the day it happened on V day I had just met some sailor I think I only had one or two dates with him but we went downtown and we were on the street and everybody was screaming and celebrating yeah was it like a relief for the country do you think oh well it was tough and then all you know everybody was drafted yeah my husband was for f because he at that time he wore these very thick glasses and he was blind without them and uh
made they didn't have contact lenses in those days so they disqualified him from service but all the other men were away you and Jack have three children you have eight biological grandkids and then two step grandkids with Irving what advice does Grandma have for all those grandkids and the Next Generation they all grew up and made their own lives and uh they didn't come to me for advice well thanks for doing this today you did a great job well that was easy